Does your school "discriminate" against quiet people?

<p>Hi all,</p>

<p>It seems like my school loves to discriminate against quiet people. I'm never given a chance to say something in a club meeting, even if it's a good idea. In addition, the school faculty (principals and counselors) never inform me about any volunteering, leadership, tutor, and award opportunities. On the other hand, the "extroverted" kids get insane school-wide recognition. I'm just the kid with a 4.0 GPA in rigorous (AP) courses, a community volunteer, a math and physics geek, and others...</p>

<p>My school is also pretty ghetto. Everyone wants to go to an in-state college with a 100% acceptance rate.</p>

<p>Is your school like this?</p>

<p>Not really, our student body president and Vice President are introverts. The VP is probably the quietest most socially awkward person I know. At our school everyone is too nice to quiet people though. It’s like they think that if you aren’t super nice to them the quiet people will break.</p>

<p>My class president is the biggest snob I know. She yelled at me this one time in AP Lang for helping out with a group activity. I was simply throwing out ideas/words and she mocked for that. Wow, nice I know…people are way too unfriendly and judgmental towards quiet, reserved people at my school.</p>

<p>hi hi hi</p>

<p>as a very introverted, socially awkward and anxious person, my school has some of the most amazingly supportive people i know. i’m an ib student in an inner-city high school and i spend the vast majority of my school day with the same 14-15 people. i ran as class president and lost, though not by a very large margin. it seems that people have a slight bias toward the very extroverted students, though i can’t hold that against them – from my experiences, they’re more responsive than the more introverted students i’ve met (myself included), and people like them for that. i’m kind of the quiet kid that passes under the radar i guess?</p>

<p>i think it’s like that not just with schools, but with society as well: the more vocal people tend to be the more popular.</p>

<p>if you want to be heard, you’ve gotta speak…</p>

<p>Philovitist, you just spoke my mind!</p>

<p>All of you guys claiming that you’re being discriminated because you’re an introvert seriously need to learn how to speak up. I’m an introvert, but I can be an extrovert as well. If I want an idea to be heard, I say something. You won’t get anywhere by stuttering and shying away to a corner. Goodness. One thing I can’t stand in meetings or group projects is when people don’t speak up and then they get all miffed that they’re not being listened to. If don’t speak up, you’re going to be spoken over.</p>

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Or maybe she’s one eyed, one horned, flying, purple, people eater?</p>

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Do you make your interests known? You can’t expect teachers, counselors, or principles to be going to you about everything and everything. Tell your counselor that you’re interested in community service opportunities or ask them to keep an eye out for anything tht would be a fit for you.</p>

<p>At my school, I think “funny” people get all the awards and credit for everything. No one pays any attention to you unless you’re doing some stupid off-the-wall thing to make them laugh.</p>

<p>The world will discriminate against you. If you ever want to reach a position of status and power, you’ve gotta be heard.</p>

<p>I’m introverted but I can act extroverted at times that I need to be. When I deal with introverted or quiet people, I’m more relaxed and don’t act agressive but when I’m with extroverts then I try to be extroverted. </p>

<p>It took some work but I did it because I didn’t want to be passed over. I guess the world is run by extroverts and socially outgoing people.</p>

<p>People in general seem to. Whenever I try to say something, I literally get talked over. I try talking louder, and I’m still not heard. It’s somewhat infuriating.
It’s especially annoying since, while I want to keep some aspects of introversion (self-reflection and such), I want to become less awkward. Getting ignored doesn’t help me reach that goal.</p>

<p>^Yes, I know what you mean. I used to expect a response to every single one of my statements. They probably hear you, they just don’t directly respond.</p>

<p>Dude, thats how extroverts work. I think they don’t expect a response to every single statement. They just put stuff out there for the sake of putting it out there.</p>

<p>As a natural introvert, I would come up with something thoughtful and it would kill the convo cause it was thoughtful(maybe not, who knows). Now, when I talk, I try not to judge people’s responses to my words by if they respond.</p>

<p>I wouldn’t say quiet students are discriminated against per se at my school, but rather they are quite often overlooked. I know whenever it comes to the school nominating a student for an indepedent award or scholarship it seems that the athletes, ASB members, or people whose parents are friends with the administration seem to get the most recognition. At the same time though, these people can’t be expected to ferret out all of the high achieving students, as most present themselves to the administration in some way or another. I know this year I have made a point of chatting up the counselors and the career resource people just to get some name recognition with them. You have to be your own advocate, at least a public school you do.</p>

<p>Go out of your way to excel in one area and you will probably be recognized. I did well on a national science project and also had an Op-Ed published in a newspaper, both of which warranted attention from the administration without me asking for it or informing them.</p>

<p>okay i’m going to join in here, sorry buddy, i support ya, but i want to get on a soapbox</p>

<p>my social anxiety is an awkward thing to overcome. it’s difficult, and i still struggle a lot with it, but life won’t really wait for you. i’ve learned that the hard way – i have virtually zero extracurricular activities because i thought that opportunities were going to manifest themselves to me like they had in middle school. that, and some issues beyond my control (transportation issues, among some other family conflicts) made it difficult for me to do much of anything. i’m a senior now and i’m really stressing out about it.</p>

<p>anyways, my experiences aren’t important. the most important thing that i feel that i can stress is that you have to make things work for you. while if you’re more prone to talking and being open to people, it’s a lot easier for other people to get an idea of who you are, when you’re more quiet or introverted, you have to tell people, ‘hey, i’m interested in , is there anything going on that’s something like this?’ you seem like a very competent person, and it’d really be a shame if you didn’t get to do whatever you wanted because you’re quiet. if this isn’t your senior year, i’d really advise you to be more open in the following year(s). if it is, then you’ll have to be sure not to be as quiet in college as you were in high school, or at least consult people about the myriad opportunities available to you. you have to be vocal. it either comes naturally to people or it doesn’t. is that fair? no. is it true? i’d say so. how will people know how great you are at things if you don’t show them?</p>

<p>i’m dumb and i can’t find out how to quote people, but as an aside: </p>

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<p>(hey, that worked) it’s funny: most introverted people i know are complete control freaks in group projects! they have a concrete idea of what they want going into the project and are usually fairly truculent when other people suggest something.</p>

<p>On the last bit, not to make this thread about me, but I’m an extremely quiet person and it gets to the point where I almost have to shout in order to be heard.</p>

<p>Anyways, back to the topic.</p>

<p>In short: Never let your inhibitions get the better of you. I’ll use myself as an example: I’m terribly self-conscious and my anxiety has become a lot worse since the beginning of high school, but I’ve come to realize that other people will not, nor can they make things work for me. Recognizing my autonomy has been one of the most difficult things I’ve had to do in my life, and I still struggle with it. But I’m getting better at it. Practicing is really the only way to get better. Talk to people and see what’s available to you. By the way, if you don’t relate to me at all, that’s fine: just use me as an example of what not to do.</p>

<p>I’m sorry if it seems like I’m being multifaceted here, as that’s not my intention at all. I thought my original comment had a similar tone, but maybe not. I don’t really like saying “speak up”, as that’s what people tend to tell me and I usually tend to scorn them for such a remark, even though I recognize its validity. But really, you have to open up, despite any potential inhibitions or fears. That’s the only way that you can destroy your apprehensions.</p>

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<p>one kid at my middle school was like that and got so much attention from teachers.</p>

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<p>ahaha :D.</p>

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<p>it doesn’t sound like the OP is describing discrimination against quiet people to me, just a lack of attention towards them. but that is kind of expected. if someone is usually quiet then you don’t look to them to say things, you look to the people who usually say things to say things.</p>

<p>at least it doesn’t seem like conscious discrimination.</p>

<p><a href=“hey,%20that%20worked”>quote</a> it’s funny: most introverted people i know are complete control freaks in group projects! they have a concrete idea of what they want going into the project and are usually fairly truculent when other people suggest something.

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You would think that, right? I know when it come to projects and presenting, I become extremely confident and take charge. Maybe I’m “overpowering” when it comes to other introverts, but maybe it’s a leadership thing. And maybe my experiences don’t really “count” because I’m not 100% introverted.</p>

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word.</p>

<p>have you looked into medical intervention? the mechanism of actions of the drugs are pretty well understood and the studies show they work very well (at reducing anxiety) compared to the alternative kinds of treatments. it seems like a good idea to at least TRY them because there is little harm in doing so. but it does typically require going to a psychiatrist i think.</p>

<p>Can’t say it does. I’m a fairly quiet, extremely awkward person, at least in school, but I consider myself to be an odd mix of both introversion and extroversion.</p>

<p>I don’t think it’s the school, really, that discriminates against you, at least not consciously. Like at my school, no one tells you anything. I didn’t realize there was a Science Olympiad team and NHS until at the end of 10th grade. You have to go find everything yourself, which is something that more active people are better at. So its partially unintentional, partially self willed imo, maybe with a hint of discrimination.</p>

<p>And worst of all is the fact that absolutely everyone does everything over Facebook. It’s super annoying. I had to ask 3 different clubs why I never got any emails from them and they all responded “it’s on Facebook.” I really don’t want to give away my privacy, and waste massive chunks of time doing absolutely nothing on Facebook, kthx. Any yet, people prod me almost daily to make one, and ugh. I dun wanna :(</p>

<p>Hahaha my club does a lot of things over Facebook xP</p>

<p>I agree with Philovitist, Niquii, and enfield…I mean, you guys have to say something if you want to be heard. People can<code>t read your mind. I used to be INSANELY quiet…up until maybe 8th grade. Then I gradually came outta my shell and now people yell at me to be quiet (I talk a littttle loud sometimes). But if I have something to say, I</code>m going to say it. I don<code>t think schools discriminate, it</code>s just that because you all don<code>t speak…you</code>re not going to get called on. If you have something to say, say it. They can<code>t read your mind and say, “Oh, she has something to say…” if you don</code>t raise your hand and say something.</p>

<p>Lol at that fb thing. I made one recently just to keep up with clubs and activities. I only put my yearbook picture there and joined a couple of study groups.</p>

<p>In AP & honors classes yes, in my regular classes no :confused:</p>