<p>You guys just sound bitter over your inability to branch out. Really.</p>
<p>I find that I can group together with Asians - Chinese, Korean, and Japanese, more easily than any other race. It may be because our cultures are just so different. I’ve tried branching out to others but it just doesn’t work with me. People have told me 'Youre to asian for us. Why do you speak so much Asian?" in high school. I also find that I can stick to Asians who’s parents are from Asia as opposed to 3rd+ generation in the US. Most people I find are just ignorant at the fact that English isn’t my first language. In fact, it’s my 4th.</p>
<p>I’m willing to hang out with other races in college, especially since I’m heading off to a huge public school… but it’s easy to just stick to people with similar cultures, interests, and backgrounds.</p>
<p>//and this has nothing to do with MLK and all that you were just talking about lol</p>
<p>Well, I do think it’s wrong to refuse to be caught around your own culture, it’s probably wrong to refuse to be caught around anyone that’s not your culture. Eh.</p>
<p>I do worry about this. From what I see of the hispanics I know, when they come back from a far away college either they turn all “pura raza” and aztec pride (which is kinda weird to me) or they pretend to not speak spanish and think taco cabana is the best mexican food (like an aunt who wanted to be called “Catherine” or “Cathy” instead of Catalina). I don’t like those extremes, I just wanna stay the same. I don’t wanna learn the proper spanish they speak in mexico but I don’t want to forget how to speak what I do now (tex mex or spanglish or whatever). But there isn’t a large hispanic population, from what little there is it seems mostly puerto ricans or dominicans and I’m used to mexicans, also I am gonna be in engineering and I do hope that there is just a nerd culture to stick together with.</p>
<h2>Oh please. If people want to be seen for their true person they should they wear what they want. And stop acting as is Martin Luther King is some god at which we should be judged by. ~ Xirus</h2>
<p>No, you are wrong - very wrong, and that is what is wrong with black culture, the attitude you portray.</p>
<p>I never compared MLK to a god, I tried to compare him as a role model - learn the difference.</p>
<p>People will judge you by what you portray yourself as. If you portray yourself as a ghetto idiot, that’s what people will think you are - and that’s what you deserve to be considered.</p>
<p>Portray yourself as a respectable person, people will think you are one - first impressions go along way.</p>
<p>People with your attitude undermine everything that good black Americans have done to rid themselves of negative stereotypes, thanks for holding us back.</p>
<p>You know what annoys me? When a minority is accused of “acting white” because they have white friends or wear clothes that weren’t featured in the latest rap video. If minorities only hang with people of their own race, they’re close-minded and need to branch out. But if they do interact with other races, they’re “assimilating” or “acting white”. Some of you really need to examine your ignorant views.</p>
<p>^yeah, that’s kinda irritating because if a white person is hanging out with a bunch of white people it’s just normal, if he hangs around mostly minorities of some kind, learns the language, takes on the customs or whatever he’s cultured</p>
<p>It only annoys when when people who only hang out with their race complain about a lack of diversity.</p>
<p>“Barrack Obama wears suits from Burberry, does that make him less black?”</p>
<p>Well, he is half white…</p>
<p>Well, I do think it’s wrong to refuse to be caught around your own culture, it’s probably wrong to refuse to be caught around anyone that’s not your culture. Eh.</p>
<h2>I do worry about this. From what I see of the hispanics I know, when they come back from a far away college either they turn all “pura raza” and aztec pride (which is kinda weird to me) or they pretend to not speak spanish and think taco cabana is the best mexican food (like an aunt who wanted to be called “Catherine” or “Cathy” instead of Catalina). I don’t like those extremes, I just wanna stay the same. I don’t wanna learn the proper spanish they speak in mexico but I don’t want to forget how to speak what I do now (tex mex or spanglish or whatever). But there isn’t a large hispanic population, from what little there is it seems mostly puerto ricans or dominicans and I’m used to mexicans, also I am gonna be in engineering and I do hope that there is just a nerd culture to stick together with. ~ Lucky2010</h2>
<p>I don’t think anyone asks another person to forget about their heritage, but I do think people others to understand that if you live in American - you are in American first, and you should assimiliate to American culture, and not expect Americans to assimiliate to your own.</p>
<p>Racial issues will never improve until everyone in the country begins to think of themselves as Americans first. </p>
<p>If people don’t like that, they can always go back to their native country, no one is holding them captive here. People shouldn’t use this country just because it provides better benefits than their native nation, then refuse to appreciate its culture, language and traditions.</p>
<p>It only annoys when when people who only hang out with their race complain about a lack of diversity.</p>
<p>“Barrack Obama wears suits from Burberry, does that make him less black?”</p>
<h2>Well, he is half white… ~ Tff90</h2>
<p>So, do clothes define a persons color, heritage or ethnicity?</p>
<p>Does a clothing label define what makes us different in society?</p>
<p>So, would Barrack Obama only be “really black”, if he showed wearing a purple pimp suit, with Lil John and Snoop Dog standing next to him?</p>
<p>Peoples understanding of race is so far out of wack it’s disgusting.</p>
<p>The goal of the civil rights movment was about not being judged on the color of our skin, but the content of our character, not the label of our clothes. Does the sound familiar? What happened to that?</p>
<p>Apparently, the black race, doesn’t care about character, only the label of their clothes - if you buy into this sort of crap.</p>
<p>You were golden until you made that last comment. It was a sweeping and completely false generalization.</p>
<p>^^^ I was referring to the people in this conversation, and unfortunately, many black youth across the country.</p>
<p>I will stand by that statement.</p>
<p>Believe what you want, but beliefs like yours are also undermine everything blacks have worked for. And unfortunately a lot of people believe it as well.</p>
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<p>^^I couldn’t agree more. Just reread the things some of you said, you don’t sound racist. You sound completely ignorant. </p>
<p>Furthermore, I don’t think anyone blatantly chooses who they feel most comfortable hanging out with. Why does it matter?</p>
<p>love the people trying to deny that in some cultures in the US, people who strive to succeed are looked down upon</p>
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<p>I’m more of the opinion that race relations will not improve unless we think of everyone as an American. Your statement, in my opinion, somewhat discounts the effects of being treated in a certain way by one’s fellow citizens.</p>
<p>But then again, maybe I shouldn’t be talking, because since the U.S. denied my application for citizenship, I have no right to call myself an American…</p>
<p>Hm. Food for thought.</p>
<h2>Believe what you want, but beliefs like yours are also undermine everything blacks have worked for. And unfortunately a lot of people believe it as well. ~ LIvingoxymoron</h2>
<p>And what beliefs of mine undermine everything blacks have worked for?</p>
<h2>But then again, maybe I shouldn’t be talking, because since the U.S. denied my application for citizenship, I have no right to call myself an American… ~ CasaAtreides</h2>
<p>No, you honestly don’t.</p>
<p>Your whole “think everyone as American” is complete BS! This is a country, with laws, heritage and traditions, just like any other country.</p>
<p>How come America has to consider every person on the globe a citizen of our country?</p>
<p>Yet, everyone wants to hate American - give me a break.</p>
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<p>I agree with this. Did it sound like I didn’t? I didn’t mean to, just that I know hispanics to go far more into there culture than they previously were when surrounded by mostly whites, and also I know hispanics to go away from there culture. I don’t think anyone should do either, I think doing one or the other does show “insecurity” like the OP was talking about. Afraid that who they originally isn’t good enough for either the hispanic community or white, so they change.</p>
<p>I really like being an american, I like the opportunity I guess, and how many different places you can see. In mexico one city barely differs from another (except the main city, which is kinda just the wealthy mexicans), in the US New York is vastly different from Austin that’s different from LA, from Seattle, from Las Vegas, from the farms.</p>
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<p>You’re absolutely right. It’s completely my fault that due to some bureaucratic error, my application was railroaded into the wrong pile, notwithstanding the fact that I’ve lived here for over 15 years with permanent residency. I have no right whatsoever - after all, what have I contributed to this great nation? :rolleyes:</p>
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<p>Take it easy, buddy.</p>
<p>My main point was that as long as we continue to perceive others as being outsiders, the whole “call yourself an American” won’t work. </p>
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<p>How did you get that from my original statement?</p>
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You portrayed him as someone that would be ashamed of us because he wouldn’t “be caught dead” wearing a certain type of clothing. I really doubt MLK was that shallow.</p>
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And who’s definition of “ghetto idiot” are we operating on? If someone is so quick to judge an entire section of the population because they dress differently, then that’s on them. Don’t try to make us feel guilty for dressing the way we choose. It’s called freedom.</p>
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Oh please. Enough with the guilt.</p>
<p>If anything, your the one at fault for trying to impose some self-described “correct” way to dress and act as a black person. Stop treating black people as some single entity that should behave the same way. Just because YOU disagree with someone’s idea of clothing doesn’t give you the right to criticize them as not living up to Martin Luther King’s “way of life”. He was a great person. I truly understand that. I respect him. But not everyone wants to be him like you seem to assume. </p>
<p>On topic, it really doesn’t bother me. I mean, people usually hang out with people they can identify with. If that happens to fall within mainly within their racial group, who are we to fault them? Now, its when people refuse to associate with other races, then that becomes the problem. I just wouldn’t assume that happens in the majority of cases.</p>