<p>I would say that a demeaning blanket statement about the lack of character in the black community undermines them. Same would go for any false generalizations.</p>
<p>People tend to feel more comfortable with people who are of the same race. Simple as that</p>
<h2>You portrayed him as someone that would be ashamed of us because he wouldn’t “be caught dead” wearing a certain type of clothing. I really doubt MLK was that shallow. ~ Xirus</h2>
<p>Oh, he wouldn’t be shallow, but he would have more self-respect, which is something you don’t seem to understand.</p>
<p>He wouldn’t be caught dead wearing that crap, becuase HE WAS BETTER THAN THAT!</p>
<p>He wouldn’t be caught dead wearing clothing that made him look stupid, ignorant or “ghetto”, that’s that whole point - he was better than that, and he wanted the whole black community to be better than that.</p>
<p>He wanted to “rise above”, not skim the gutter.</p>
<p>I mean, only someone of the same race will clearly understand your opinions and perspectives more than others. This typically occurs with first generation children in the US. Its just easier because your parents are so culturally in tact with their own nation. Only someone else who has experienced that will understand the most.</p>
<p>On top of that you pick friends based on how well you can understand each other and do things together. Whether that person is of a different race or of the same doesn’t really matter. Only that you find some group that you are comfortable in. </p>
<p>Personally I don’t find anything wrong with it. Its only wrong if you consciously avoid other races just because they are different…</p>
<p>This quote from a poster shows is a very sad side of racism (and oh-my, that grammar!):
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<p>This is an accurate depiction of why people “stick together”.
Note though, it’s not just whites stick with whites. It is also true that people who speak the same language stick together. (The French stick with French, German with German, Russian with Russian, etc.) It can also be quite regional as well (Southerners stick with other southerners, etc.)</p>
<p>So what that Barack Obama wears Burberrys. That doesn’t make him British. He just prefers that look. It has nothing to do with his ethnicity. Anyone who hangs too tightly to their genealogy and background needs to start looking ahead, not back. The important truth is that racism is becoming less important as we become more aware of our global commonalities rather than the differences.</p>
<p>"Or the miniorities that “think” they are white (won’t hang with others of their race). You know…the black kid that works at Orange Julius and wears Hollister? </p>
<p>Yeah I totally agree… it’s the same with Asians trying to be white, who absolutely refuse to hang out with other Asians. Like I said, it doesn’t affect me and it may offend some but I think it’s sending the wrong message – “I’m too good to hang out with my own kind” or something along those lines. "
<em>head desk</em></p>
<p>Like this Asian girl who moved to my school during mid-year…</p>
<p>Before she even said a word, I already knew which “crowd” she would belong to. And I was dead right too. I can’t really pinpoint what the issue is, but I’m sure it has to do with insecurity – the insecurity that’s preventing them from branching out and experiencing new things. </p>
<p>which crowd…oh please. </p>
<p>" I can’t really pinpoint what the issue is, but I’m sure it has to do with insecurity – the insecurity that’s preventing them from branching out and experiencing new things. "</p>
<p>are you a therapist now, how can you say that this girl is insecure? She went to a “crowd” that shared her interests… you don’t have to look like people to befriend them… </p>
<p>I really don’t think that when people see groups of kids of different races, it offends them as much as you think</p>
<p>I’m sorry but this thread needs to die. I don’t understand why any of you care who OTHER people hang out with.</p>
<p>If you’re so upset with individuals who choose to befriend people of their own race, don’t be friends with them. That’s fine, but there’s no need to make sweeping generalizations about the so-called “racism” that causes this.</p>
<p>Similarly, no one is forcing you to befriend the “asian girl who only hangs out with whites”. Is it necessary to psychoanalyze her and immediately assume that simply because her friends are not of her color, that she is discriminating against her own race? Aren’t people entitled to their own friends, without judgment?</p>
<p>If she’s happy, and her friends are happy, who cares?</p>
<p>^This.</p>
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<li>Who gives a ***** if people hang out with others in their own culture/race? Its their choice…let them do that if they want and stop making a big deal about it. </li>
<li>Did it ever occur to you that people hang out with others in their own culture/race because chances are they probably have more in common with them than with someone else outside their culture?</li>
<li>Race and culture isn’t defined by someone’s job. That’s like saying anyone who decides to own a gas station is trying to “act Indian”; it’s also like saying Barack Obama is trying to “act white” by being president (something only white people have done up til now)</li>
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<p>My experience:
I took an AP Statistics class in high school. My teacher let us sit where we wanted without any restriction, even on a day-to-day basis. Without any coersion, the Mexicans (either born in Mexico or first generation American but goes to Mexico essentially every weekend because my old school is about 7 minutes from Mexico. Many actually commuted to school from Mexico.) sat on one side, Koreans (Im pretty sure five of the six were born in Korea), sat in a group in the back, and the Whites and Hispanics (Kids whose families have been here in the US just as long as most White people’s families if not longer) sat on the other side of the room. The lines weren’t hard battle lines, but they were apparent. There was no animosity. It was cool to walk in and here three distinct languages with a little French thrown in from kids who were taking it. No one was judgemental or upset about the arrangement. It just happened. People wanted to speak in thier native language I guess.</p>
<p>The reason you think minorities self-segregate the most is because there’s fewer of them. White people do it to, the difference is most people in this country are White so we don’t notice it as much. It’s easy to miss the all-White table in the dining hall because it’s so typical. The all-black table stands out because, oh look, those 3 dark folks are eating together.
What a stupid thing to say. So let me get this straight - if an Asian has no Asian friends, they’re “trying to be white” but if most of their friends are Asian, then everyone’s mad because they’re self-segregating. You know what, every Asian who immigrates here should be assigned a specific “Race Ratio” that’s acceptable, how about that? Then they’ll know better!</p>
<p>And what exactly is “Acting White”? Using forks instead of chopsticks? C’mon</p>
<p>Growing up I never had friends of my own race. That’s because my race makes up less than 1% of the American population and I was the only one in my grade. Didn’t make a friend of my own race until I went to college. Most of my friends are still White or East Asian, I have only 2 black friends and 0 Hispanic friends, except my boyfriend who is Hispanic, and only 2 friends of my own ethnic groups. Guess that means I’m acting white, Yeeehawwww!</p>
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^ This. I have a very diverse group of friends from every background imaginable but my closest buddies are all of my own ethnic background. It wasn’t an intentional or conscious choice - we all just happen to culturally relate to one another very well.</p>
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Dumb post. Define what “acting white” is, aside from “refusing to hang out with other Asians”.</p>
<p>And while you’re at it, continue banging that head of yours and don’t stop until I say so.</p>
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<p>Oh just stop it. You’re embarrassing yourself. First of all, stop with the sweeping generalizations. Second of all, stop bringing in Martin Luther King into this argument as some sort of “solution” to a problem involving preferences in clothing attire. </p>
<p>How about letting people dress how they want to instead of alienating of a group of people you seem to know NOTHING about. You don’t agree with how some people dress and dislike their music? Deal with it, because your narrow minded opinions about molding black people into some pre-conceived notions of your ideals is laughable. </p>
<p>Truth is, people live life how they choose to. We’re not all “lost souls” that just don’t know any better. Stop acting like your “way of life” is any better than anyone else’s.</p>
<p>“If you define who you are from clothes, where you work, eat, or shop - you have a very sad understand of culture.”</p>
<p>Actually those are pretty darn good indicators of culture. Believe it or not, certain cultures do tend to go into certain professions more than others, wear particular types of clothes more than others, etc. German-descended people all over the world became scientists and engineers and prominent business people, same goes for Chinese immigrants. These are things which distinguish a culture, among many others. Dress, common professions, spending habits, saving habits, punctuality, level of respect for rules and authority, literacy habits, etc. Even when different cultures practice the same religion, you can find differences in the practice. Welsh and Scottish churches hundreds of years ago had a strident oratory style which migrated to America and rubbed off on free slaves and the style of preaching which is stereotyped as “black church” style (think PreacherBot from Futurama) began.</p>
<p>Culture is so much more than just language, religion, and attitude. It’s more than we realize because we can’t always see it.</p>
<p>"Your culture is your heritage, your history.</p>
<p>Culture is not found in baggy pants, white T’s, or any other fad started by some dumb rapper who just makes the black population look ignorant."</p>
<p>Sorry, but that most certainly is a certain type of culture. A subculture. Just like emo, anime nerd, wiccan, Orthodox Jew, and redneck are all subcultures. Where I grew up, everybody had buzz cuts and wore wife beaters. That was the youth culture there. Getting angry about it doesn’t change that it <em>was</em> a culture, and I can’t step in and say “no no, that’s not your real culture, your real culture is this other thing.” Cultures aren’t conferred on somebody by decree. Saying that wearing baggy pants, speaking bad English, and listening to music about drugs and hos isn’t a real culture makes no more sense than the baggy-pants-wearing, bad-English-speaking black guy telling another black guy that “he’s not really black” because he got a degree in physics and votes Republican.</p>
<p>There is no such thing as “black culture,” there are just culture, period. Sometimes they jump from one group to another, as when many aspects of Scottish, Irish, and Welsh culture came to the American south and rubbed off on the poor, uneducated black people of the pre-and-post-Civil War era with whom the poor Scottish, Irish, and Welsh immigrants (and their descendants) lived and worked around.</p>
<p>^^^ When you model yourself after ignorant crap, that’s all people will think you are.</p>
<p>And that’s all you should be thought of, because you don’t have enough self-respect to present yourself well in society.</p>
<p>Crap in, Crap out - you get what you give. You want to walk around looking like a turd, people will assume you are a turd.</p>
<p>If you want respect, grow up, act like an adult, leave all that ignorant stuff in high school where it belongs.</p>
<p>Like it or not, you are judged on the image you present, if you want to portray an image of an ignorant hood, be my guest, but don’t pull the race card when people treat you for what you present - an ignorant hood.</p>
<p>That image doesn’t fly in the real world, especially not in the business world, so if you want to go anywhere, learn to deal with it.</p>
<p>haha is bigeastbeast a ■■■■■ or just stupid? regardless, not all black people strive to be bill cosby or mlk.</p>
<p>I think he’s just having a different debate than everybody else on this thread.</p>
<p>I take it that BIGeast has nothing better to do on a Saturday night?</p>
<p>Originally Posted by mangocandy4
Yeah I totally agree… it’s the same with Asians trying to be white, who absolutely refuse to hang out with other Asians. Like I said, it doesn’t affect me and it may offend some but I think it’s sending the wrong message – “I’m too good to hang out with my own kind” or something along those lines." <em>head desk</em> </p>
<p>Dumb post. Define what “acting white” is, aside from “refusing to hang out with other Asians”.</p>
<p>And while you’re at it, continue banging that head of yours and don’t stop until I say so</p>
<p>Hotchocolate_ you misunderstood my post the “Yeah I totally agree… it’s the same with Asians trying to be white, who absolutely refuse to hang out with other Asians. Like I said, it doesn’t affect me and it may offend some but I think it’s sending the wrong message – “I’m too good to hang out with my own kind” or something along those lines.”
was not my line, I found it ignorant like you did , so that’s why I said <em>head desk</em></p>