<p>doesn’t undergrad prestige matter in silicon valley? stanford, mit, etc place a LOT more people in silicon valley than those from other schools. just wondering. (obviously different kinds of “prestige” are important for silicon, a list which would have stanford, mit, harvey mudd, caltech etc at the top instead of most of the ivies). </p>
<p>@Vctory, read again.</p>
<p>I was responding to responding to the only line stated by OP,
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<p>and here was what I wrote
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<p>As you noted yourself, they even have different degrees and the jobs seldom overlap.</p>
<p>Now consider ucbalumnus’ example of someone who got CC, then Harvard later, then job. Does that job come because Harvard or does that come because of CC? How does that example substantiate the claim “Harvard graduates and other ivy league graduates be rejected from a job than a COMMUNITY COLLEGE graduate.”</p>
<p>BTW, I’m not interested in your spins or interpretations. As I said, I was not debating the thesis, rather that particular line.</p>
<p>Appologize to other people that I had to extend this thread without contributing anything new.</p>
<p>All I’m basically trying to say is how I see many fellow classmates wanting to go to a school because of the name and overlooking the other important things such as tuition and if the school provides the major/academics they need later on in life. I am just noticing how as many try to look for colleges, some just pick an Ivy League school and believe they are going to get in and that’s that. They don’t look for back up schools or even see if the school offers what they desire .</p>
<p>I was just using an example of how Ivy League is something popular among my classmates that want to apply to a school because of the label.</p>
<p>And even though I have not experienced college yet, to say to not make choices you may regret later…well…although it doesn’t pertain to college directly, I had experiences myself where I regret choices I made and not using some of my time wisely. It’s just one of those things that should be as commonly known as “the sky is blue”(terrible example, I know). I’ve heard it from many others and seen it happen through friends and family, and the same advice I was told for high school actually happened to me. It may or may not happen to me in college but we’ll see. I do want to have critical thinking,yes but that does not mean I will ignore or disregard people who may have more experience than me’s words that may be of use to me if such situation arises.</p>
<p>But this is to my own fault because I am reaching out to the wrong audience along with my poor wording . 
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<p>Well I’m breaking my promise not to post anymore on this thread. :)</p>
<p>@SammyxB, we all understand what you want to say. It’s certainly valid opinion and many people agree with it. However, using strong word like “assure” while you don’t have strong evidence backing it up is going to damage, not help the credibility of your overall arguments. Also many things in life is not black/white. Be confident, but don’t exaggerate, that’s the key. I hope you keep that in mind on whatever you do. Good luck.</p>
<p>@theanaconda:</p>
<p>Indeed, different criteria are used. If you look at the CS programs that have the most startup founders as alums, Stanford/MIT/Harvard are at the top, but next are Cal & Illinois (and while Cal EECS is biggest, UIUC CS is only somewhat bigger than Stanford & MIT, Harvard’s is small, though). I’ve also seen both Cal and UIUC CS grads pull their friends/classmates in to startups (both have big networks in the Valley, Cal’s is gigantic, as you can expect). You can’t go wrong with Cornell/Columbia/UPenn/CMU either.</p>
<p>Mudd does have the highest percentage of its grads working in startups in Silicon Valley. However, SJSU has a bunch of grads working there as well.</p>
<p>By sheer numbers, it’s probably Cal, then Stanford/UCLA/CMU/Illinois /SJSU (maybe MIT as well) in the Valley.</p>
<p>You seem like a very nice girl, SammyxB, but I found your argument very flawed, lacking factual accuracy and almost preachy. While the overall meaning of your post has well intentions, it is backed up with poor data and most people would probably say that you aren’t experienced enough to claim this (read: you’re lacking ethos/pathos/logos).</p>
<p>Your experience (seeing Harvard grads not getting job; show us data) seems limited, especially when you generalize teenagers. I highly doubt that most seniors are like your classmates/and friends, and this could probably be a geographic difference since wow… all the Ivies on your list since 3rd grade; when I was in third grade, I didn’t know the difference between Harvard and Hartford (capital of CT), nor did anyone else. Maybe it’s just your school, but I assure you, while kids do think of the “prestige” of the school, there are many that don’t. Also saying that many Ivy League graduates don’t become well known is a lie; check out the alma maters for some of our recent presidents.</p>
<p>An Ivy League doesn’t mean imminent success. Like other people have been saying, it’s not the education that’s key (although it is very good), but the network. You’re just put on a different starting level than someone who went to a lesser known school and it is up to you from there to forge your path, and that’s why alumni from these so-called lesser known schools can do just as well as Ivy League graduate.</p>
<p>Anyways, best of luck during your senior year and applying to colleges.</p>
<p>Thank you and yes I realize that I am lacking factual accuracy. I will make sure next time I re-evaluate my statement and provide credible sources and strong data </p>
<p>Haha and yes I have been planning and thinking of college for a long time. I find it to be a huge honor for me to have a chance of college and sharpening my skills in many areas and improving as a person. And no it wasn’t my school that made me have the Ivies in my list. It was my own self and my own curiosity of wondering what is out there beyond the neighborhoods I lived in/my classrooms. </p>