<p>Nighthawk, you just resurrected a thread that had been dead for nearly a year. I’m sure Marley’s Ghost appreciates the bump.</p>
<p>annasdad,
marleys_ghost bumped the thread, in the same ■■■■■ retread behavior as has been demonstrated inteh past. Same song, same verse.</p>
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what an interesting idea! I guess your philosophy is one should encourage people to enter a field where they personally end up much worse off than they could have been in a different career because I benefit from them becoming engineers.</p>
<p>You’ll have to forgive me for giving advice on how they can make their life better instead of mine.</p>
<p>Give it a rest. It was old the last gazillion times you droned on about this.</p>
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wow, what a comprehensive and insightful refutation! </p>
<p>Fox news listener, perhaps?</p>
<p>And yet you never refuted other people’s rebuttals…</p>
<p>He’s a ■■■■■, ken. No one cares. Hope he takes his sour grapes elsewhere.</p>
<p>I’m going into Engineering because I love what it’s about. Technological advances.
Deal with it.</p>
<p>didn’t read the thread. but my brother went to NC State a few years back, chemical engineering, job right out of college paying 85k in a long island suburb, not the city… it doesn’t have insane hours, and he didn’t kill himself in college (he didn’t have the best grades, but then again he didn’t ever study or anything).</p>
<p>so, yeah.</p>
<p>also, some people like engineering.</p>
<p>You sound like a self centered person who only wants to make a buck and hates his job. My advice is to find a new career path. If everyone only thought about making the most money, partying in college, working short hours, and not having to interact with “foreigners”, I shudder to think what the world would be like.</p>
<p>I really like the amount of outrage that this thread has spawned. The OP has facts and statistics at his side, everyone else…well they just don’t. People, if you like math and engineering, go for it. But the facts are there and they don’t look that good.</p>
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<p>Good for your brother. But the plural of anecdote is not data. </p>
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<p>Right, someone should change their career path right in the middle of a recession when millions of people are looking for work and many of them can’t even get jobs as cashiers because they are “overqualified.”</p>
<p>What in the world do you do? Chances most likely are, relative to engineers, you work short hours, had a lot of fun in colleges, and don’ have to deal with foreigners and you don’t regret any of those things. You’re on of the people you talk about.</p>
<p>I have 17 yrs work experience as an engineer and have to agreee with the op.</p>
<p>Which points do you agree with exactly?</p>
<p>My s’s are both engineers- one Mech E, working for 3 years. The other Chem E, just finished an internship this summer and starting his senior year. Both are happy with their choices, and are not bitter or burnt out, like the OP sounds. </p>
<p>In this economy, engineering is a smart place to be. Many move out later, but its a solid background to have. Sure its a lot of work in school, bot both mf my s’s had lots of fun in college and have not regretted their decisions.</p>
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In the Fox News age, I suppose this is what counts as a rebuttal. </p>
<p>It’s amusing to watch people scramble to change the focus of this thread from the engineering career to that of the poster, a verbal sleigh-of-hand that only works if you let them get away with it. I made 10 specific claims about the training, the working conditions, and long-term job prospects. Surely any college student should care about whether those claims are accurate? That you don’t address any of them I find quite telling.</p>
<p>To quote from a column by John Tierney in the NY Times back in 2008 before the current recession hit
I suppose we need to chalk Tierney’s name in the column of self-centered job-hating people ;)</p>
<p>And here’s an article from Businessweek titled Study: No Shortage of U.S. Engineers"
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<p>And here’s from an article from The Chronicle of Higher Education
No doubt all these columnists are also self-centered & job-hating :D</p>
<p>What alternatives would you suggest?</p>
<p>According to universities’ surveys of their graduates (what few there are), most other majors’ graduates (but particularly humanities, biology, and chemistry graduates) do worse than most engineering graduates in seeking jobs with their bachelor’s degrees.</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/internships-careers-employment/1121619-university-graduate-career-surveys.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/internships-careers-employment/1121619-university-graduate-career-surveys.html</a></p>
<p>Of course, if you don’t like doing engineering, then don’t do it, because you won’t enjoy or do well as something you do not like doing. But that applies to anything.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.payscale.com/best-colleges/degrees.asp[/url]”>http://www.payscale.com/best-colleges/degrees.asp</a>
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<p>Many folks start in engineering and , with that solid foundation, transition into other related fields.</p>