<p>I go to an elite private school in NYC that is part of the Ivy prep league. (most of the kids at my school go to ivies)...</p>
<p>Anyway my parents already pay about $40,000 a year to send me to school.
But a lot of my friends college dreams are being stiffled by the financial crisis. a lot of people lost they college savings. and because we already go to our school, on paper we look like we have a lot of money. which sucks, cause my family and friends basically built the ivy league schools with our money.</p>
<p>anyway as intel students dont you feel guilty you are stealing aid money from actual citizens--like people that actually pay their american taxes--AMERICANS THAT CANT AFFORD TO SEND THEIR KIDS TO COLLEGE, and as international students you steal our (citizens) money for school. </p>
<p>if you go to ivy league next year, that will be the attitude you are faced with.
at least by members of higher society.</p>
<p>Actually, I don't. Internationals are down in the pecking order compared to citizens, so internationals are awarded fin. aid only if needs of citizens are satisfied. And in general, it's much lower than fin. aid to citizens themselves.</p>
<p>I don't know what people on this website say. I check college statistic. Most of them have 100% need satisfied for citizens (through institutional and federal fin. aid), while international fund are quote: "very limited, so a student applying for a financial aid will have harder change to get in".</p>
<p>There are some schools that are need-blind, of course, such as Harvard, Yale and MIT, but they easily satisfy any need for anyone, even if you income is 120k+ they can offer you some depending on the situation, according to the statistics.</p>
<p>So your post pretty much bears no sense, besides look-at-me-I-am-wealthy-American one.</p>
<p>Yeah, considering your nick, that's about what you are. </p>
<p>Considering that you are in the so-called "elite", you and your friends will probably only be satisfied by attending Ivy schools anyway, and they are need blind to all, so I don't see what point you are trying to make.</p>
<p>Unless you're an imperial whizard in the KKK.</p>
<p>If you are already paying $40k to go to high school, then you are probably too rich to qualify for any financial aid yourself. Anyway, the Ivies + 2 are private universities, they do not get any public funding from taxpayers (besides Pell Grants etc, which are only available to US citizens and permanent residents anyway) for undergraduate education - they can spend their own money from their sizable endowments however they wish to.</p>
<p>International students (especially those on financial aid) are probably more qualified than a lot of US students - since the competition is that much more intense.</p>
<p>Your family and friends probably did not "build" the Ivy League with your own money, since they were pretty much established by the early 20th century.</p>
<p>Then move to England! Go to an expensive private school there, and take all their tax money! Yeah, that's right! Be a thief! </p>
<p>If all we intl's go to the US, you guys can go take our spots in Europe :) I would be more than happy to assist you with finding some good schools for you elite guys (and I'll dig out a few with really good aid to internationals - those natives don't dreserve nothing!)</p>
<p>Irony aside,</p>
<p>Those who are qualified get admitted to the Ivies no matter how much aid they need. In addition, you can apply to colleges like Stanford, which is not need blind to internationals...</p>
<p>As previously stated: Internationals are often way more qualified and face way tougher competition, not only seen from a financial point of view.</p>
<p>If you guys were to compete with internationals on an equal basis (at the risk of alienating some good friends), you wouldn't stand much chance against some of them. I'm not speaking for myself, as I'm quite average when it comes to intelligence, but I know a few internationals that were rejected with stellar stats. </p>
<p>Suck it up, be a man (or a woman) and get on with your life. Everyone should have equal opportunity to succeed - that is the American Dream, and something you should be proud of.</p>
<p>It is capitalism, you might want to brush up on your spelling.</p>
<p>By your argument, US citizens should be charged the full stated fee too, since they are not exactly paying for their education if they are receiving financial aid.</p>
<p>Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with another concept that defines America - freedom. That includes the freedom for private institutions like university to spend their private endowments on whatever they wish to - including on financial aid for international undergraduates.</p>
<p>If you believed in capitalism, you would agree that it is much more lucrative to recruit the brightest minds from all over the world to (get their education and ultimately stay and) work in the US than to compete against them.</p>
<p>The argument of the OP is pretty immature. The ivys build their reputations on diversity and cultural exchange. This is because some of the brightest minds of the world come not only from US, but from other parts of the world. If international students were to not go to the ivies, the colleges won't remain the best in the world (and most of them really aren't)</p>
<p>And the internationals are not draining the funds provided by the tax payers. A lot of foreign people, like Benazir Bhutto, have provided funds to harvard. Would it be fair for the locals to be provided that aid?</p>
<p>dont put so much effort into this guy who seems to be just envy on that african freshman from the worst part of queens who got into harvard with a full ride because of his intelligence and not his parents' money...that is the kind of person wealthtrinity is.</p>
<p>OP's a troll. Considering his spelling and behavior, it is quite obvious that if he in fact does come from a wealthy family, there is no money in the world that could buy him into an Ivy University.</p>
<p>lol...
Well, IMO, are we really stealing? And that too in our separate pool of admission?..
Internationals who get aid earn them not for free but at a great cost (Considering the competition as well!).
Ah, and if you think we are occupying your seats, then, FYI, US is not the ONLY country with seats for international students. ( Guess you got what I mean)</p>
<p>actually im going to yale next year.
because i go to one of the best schools in the world.
and my parents will have to end up paying for people like you to go to school.</p>
<p>its common in my class. ever heard of the Andrew Mellon scholarship fund....belongs to a girl in my class.</p>
<p>and i think i am far more educated than a lot of people on this site. (nevertheless i can also speak fluent english, and french, and latin and chinease from my school)</p>