<p>i looked at law schools because i am applying to law school =)</p>
<p>Yes. I think Nursing is an extremely valuable profession, and I think it's important (especially given the critical shortage of nurses) that school's like Penn spend their resources to educate future nurses and advance nursing science. I can't think of an argument not to. </p>
<p>SEAS is an integral part of the University and most leading institutions in this country have an engineering division. It would be short-sighted of Penn to discontinue SEAS, given the increasing importance of engineering sciences. Penn's SEAS in particular is historically significant as the birth-place of the computer industry and the technological revolution--the first digital computer (ENAIC), the first computer courses, and the first computer company founded by two SEAS professors. In recent years, Penn's SEAS has been at the forefront of biotechnology and nanotechnology and by pooling further resources in these fields it may well emerge as one of the leading tech schools in the world. I fail to see the logic behind discontinuing SEAS.</p>
<p>@ percy: not many wharton grads are in a position to donate millions later on either, more than nursing grads sure, but still relatively few. Donations are frankly a relatively small part of the day to day funding of the university - that comes from research grants, funding that SEAS excells in obtaining.</p>
<p>wharton's endowment is 615 million...penn's overall endowment is 6.6 billion.</p>
<p>If the trustees feel the "rank" of SEAS is too low, improve the program. Discontinuing it would be irresponsible and detrimental to the breadth of the university.</p>
<p>Penn has no intention of shutting down SEAS. It's a major part of Penn's future plans (new nanotechnology building, bioengineering and it's interdisciplinary connections with medicine, etc., etc.).</p>
<p>Similarly, the nursing school is a major component of Penn's interdisciplinary approach to and leadership in the academics of health care, and is in no danger of being closed (as demonstrated by the mutlimillion dollar, multiphase renovation of Fagin Hall currently underway). Further, unlike the average collegiate nursing school, Penn Nursing is not just about training future journeyman nurses (not that there's anything wrong with that). Quite a bit of significant research in the larger issues of health care delivery and administration is conducted there, the school has extensive graduate programs leading to Masters and Ph.D. degrees, and many Penn Nursing alums end up in leadership positions in health care organizations and industry.</p>
<p>Penn's engineering school also managed to be one of 6 schools (out of 31 semifinalists) to make a self-driving car that could successfully complete the DARPA urban challenge, coming ahead of such powerhousese as CalTech and putting in the same league as Stanford, MIT, CMU...and most importantly, beating the pants off Princeton's car.</p>
<p>And how can Penn do M&T without the T?</p>
<p>if US news says there are 30 engineering schools that are better than Penn's, then there are still hundreds that are a lot worse.</p>
<p>It would be nice if Penn bought Drexel, liquidated it save for the engineering school, and incorporated it into Penn. They almost had the chance in the mid-1990s when Drexel was on the verge of financial insolvency. Pity, really.. we will just have to build up SEAS ourselves. The SEAS dean is hyperaggressive in his committment to developing SEAS and it is definitely bearing fruit.</p>
<p>Penn would never be the same without its engineering school and its loveable nerds.</p>
<p>And at least the SEAS kids don't get arrested for stalking girls...or stealing their underwear....or committing massive identity fraud...or stealing electronics from dorms...those were all Wharton kids (not that 4 is really a statistically significant figure...i'm just having fun :))</p>
<p>maureen rush should get rid of wharton to lower crime on campus</p>
<p>Forgive me but what is SAMP? I assume it stands for School of something or other...thanks</p>
<p>lol...but to be fair, the identity theft guy was from the College, and the guy indicted for the hacking conspiracy was from SEAS</p>
<p>samp was the school of allied medical professions.</p>
<p>@ilovebagels</p>
<p>I've always thought about the possibility of a Drexel acquisition. I think it makes sense on a number of fronts: location, it improves SEAS incredibly, more land is always appreciated, and a top-notch co-op program would be a great asset for the university.</p>
<p>What is the history behind this possibility? Is there any precedence to outright acquisitions of one university by another? All I can think of are mergers (Franklin and Marshall for example.)</p>
<p>Harvard and Radcliffe. Columbia and Barnard (well, de facto anyway).</p>
<p>Penn acquiring Drexel has never been in the cards. In many ways, they have fundamentally different missions, and really aren't comparable. Besides, Drexel is in the midst of an expansion of its own--recently acquired medical school, new law school, etc.</p>
<p>Now, some of Drexel's land on Chestnut Street--that's an entirely different matter. With the planned nanotechnology building, new college house on Hill Field, Eastward Expansion, etc., the Drexel land on the south side of Chestnut sure would come in handy . . . . :)</p>
<p>Penn acquiring Drexel WAS in the cards in the mid 1990s. But then Drexel turned its fortunes around and is now probably out of our price range.</p>
<p>Unless you have some inside info to the contrary, I don't believe Penn ever considered acquiring Drexel as an institution. I'm an interested and fairly well-informed Penn alum who was living in Philly throughout the 1990s, and I never heard anything at that time--or ANY time, for that matter--about Penn being interested in absorbing Drexel. But, as I said before, I'm sure Penn would love to acquire some of Drexel's contiguous land, if it ever became available (as opposed to acquiring/absorbing Drexel as an institution).</p>
<p>ProQuest</a> Login</p>
<p>Dissertation by a Penn GSE graduate on the history of Drexel.</p>
<p>Mentions that the leadership of BOTH schools DID discuss it amongst themselves, but it did not advance to negotiations with each other.</p>
<p>Obviously Penn wouldn't be interested in absorbing any part of Drexel save for the engineering school. The rest is just land (I'd say buildings but have you seen those things? they make the high rises look good)</p>
<p>^ Sounds like we're both saying the same thing. :)</p>
<p>At a recent presentation to alumni, I heard Craig Carnaroli mention that it sure would be nice to someday get the Drexel property on the south side of Chestnut Street (which would fit in nicely with the plans Penn has for the immediately surrounding area). As I said before, Penn might be interested in some of Drexel's land, but NOT in absorbing Drexel as an institution.</p>