<p>Waltzingout, hopefully everyone who wants housing will receive it. Looking at this, though, it seems that transfer spaces really are in short supply.</p>
<p>Thanks soccerguy315. I did hear that the units were not fabulous housing. What do you know about the dorms listed as transfer spots: bryan complex, OD, or Jefferson? Also I heard that some parts of Landrum may be co-ed…is that true or am I just making things up?</p>
<p>Bryan is pretty nice, I’ve heard that Old Dominion is very nice, and Jefferson is decent. There will be 8 guys in Landrum Basement next year as part of the Eco-House. I’ll be the RA there actually!</p>
<p>In response to the question regarding transfer student housing, my girlfriend transferred in her sophomore year and got a room in Stith (Bryan Complex). Transfer students definitely can get decent housing, it might come down to luck though. I remember telling her the order of preference she should have for dorms and Bryan was number one on her list. When you get the questionnaire I suggest turning it in as soon as possible.</p>
<p>BTW Bryan and OD are pretty similar in quality and it comes down to preference. Dorms in Bryan tend to be larger while OD was more recently renovated so the lounge is nice and there is newer furniture in the dorms. I lived in OD my sophomore year and I had a loft. There would have been very little room if the beds were not bunked/lofted.</p>
<p>I don’t know about Jefferson, I’ve only walked through it a couple times. Out of those three it would be on the bottom of my list though.</p>
<p>Emma, my D is a sophomore in Chandler this year. As mentioned earlier, it doesn’t have air conditioning…her roommate had a medical rationale for bringing one, but they had a bit of friction about when to remove it for the winter and replace it this spring, since it didn’t fit tightly in the window…</p>
<p>My sense it is an older dorm and it has all the basic amenities but nothing special. And the rooms vary more in size than one would expect; apparently the one my daughter has is significantly smaller than others on the hall (and it’s not an end unit or anything notable).</p>
<p>The rooms are what I call pseudo-suites…two separate doubles sharing a singlebathtub/shower and toilet between the 4 students. The two pairs are supposed to work out sharing cleaning and basic supplies. There is a sink in each room, which is nice.</p>
<p>There are floor layouts and room dimensions somewhere within the “residence hall” pages on the website…it takes a bit of searching to find them</p>
<p>The location is very good…between old campus and new campus and close to the University (Sadler) center.</p>
<p>I’ve been following your saga of transferring from Bryn Mawr; my daughter very much wanted to go there, but the price difference just couldn’t justify that choice. I hope you love W&M as much as she does!</p>
<p>I loved Chandler when I lived there my senior year . . . in 1982-83! In those days, it was pretty much a senior dorm - solidly-built, high ceilings, decent-sized rooms, suite or private bathrooms. In the years since, however, it has been left behind on the air conditioning thing (in my day, only Old Dominion and the “new” Randolph Complex dorms had AC), and, I have been told by recent and current students, has not been updated/renovated since my day. </p>
<p>My wife was a transfer in to W&M sophomore year and was initially not offered housing - only got in less than a month before move-in. They did help her find an apartment, but it was five miles from campus up Richmond Road and all she was going to have for getting around was a bicycle. Her father made enough noise that they moved her into what we called at the time JBT (for James Blair Terrace) and has most recently been known as Dillard Complex. I don’t believe they house undergraduates out there anymore. It was a bus ride away from campus but it was much better for her than the apartment. It was not popular because it was so removed from the rest of the campus - the facilities were old but not low quality.</p>
<p>Yes, it is true that the “Units” are the least desirable, although “in my day” even the Units were preferred to JBT/Dillard. It’s all perspective. With so many fraternities moving out of the Units, though, it is possible they will be a bit less rowdy. I was in a fraternity but preferred not to live in the house with my brothers - loved hanging out there but didn’t want to live that way 24/7.</p>
<p>My son is a junior and is in Jamestown South this year. He lucked out - was going to room with a senior, they got the room on the roommate’s senior number, then over the summer the roommate decided not to return to W&M (very sketchy, vague about why). My son ended up with a sophomore who got in off the bump list. Turned out to be the best roommate my son has had yet at W&M. Son will be in a single next year.</p>
<p>Good luck - wherever you end up, it will be great because it’s William & Mary!</p>
<p>K9Leader, thanks for all the information! It is really helpful! Also, it’s great that you, your wife, and your son attended/are attending W&M. </p>
<p>Smdur, I’m sorry your daughter couldn’t attend BMC, but I think it may have been a wise decision. I absolutely LOVE bryn mawr and I have made the best friends possible here, whom I plan to keep in touch with for a very long time (I will most likely visit BMC during next year). It tears me apart that I’m leaving them now. However, I just can’t deal with the fact that I am allowing my parents to pay $50,000 a year when options like W&M are available at less than $20,000. I also am not as impressed with my major’s course offerings as I thought I’d be and find the bi-co to be slightly lacking.</p>
<p>I’m still not 100% set on W&M, but I’m definitely edging there. I think that the transition to big schools like UNC or UVA may be too much for a girl coming from a 1300 student population to handle. Not to mention I have some supports because one of my best friends currently attends.</p>
<p>Also, this whole W&M dorm situation is kind of driving me crazy and will take getting used to mainly because BMC has such gorgeous dorms. I have secured a lovely single that is about the size of (if not bigger than) the double given to my friend at W&M who lives in Hunt. Also I have never lived with a roomate because my roomate moved out a couple weeks in due to her own mental issues…so I’m currently in a 2 room double with a window seat and fireplace. Going from an ensured single which is actually a downgrade from what I have now to a cramped double (if I even get housing) is a bit unnerving.</p>
<p>Dillard Complex no longer has students… I’m not sure what they did with the space though. The buildings are definitely still there by the soccer/baseball fields.</p>
<p>Yup, still there – and still being (more or less) maintained. As it is, a drain on resources, albeit a small one. I wonder what they have planned for this? HTH, graduate housing for the new SOE seems a good guess. </p>
<p>emma: There are so many good things to say about W&M – but luxurious housing simply isn’t one of them. That’s probably why so many W&M grads go on to serve in the Peace Corps, where the prospect of living in squalor in a dirt-floored hut in a third-world country doesn’t really seem that daunting, given where they’ve spent the last four years … :)</p>
<p>I know this is off the transfer housing topic, but I heard the sharpe scholars live in sportswood hall at the Botetourt complex. Everyone tells me it sucks, but I don’t see how dorms that are near the rec, the caf, AND the library can suck that bad. Anyone know the details about Botetourt?</p>
<p>Botetourt Complex was built in the 1960s with the intention of housing the sororities, just as had been done with the Fraternities in the Units. The sororities somehow avoided that fate and remained in their houses on Richmond Road. The Botetourt dorms became regular dorms - usually housing freshman but at various times also being use for special interest housing. I believe right now they are just freshman. </p>
<p>The Botetourt dorms are quite maze-like, with narrow hallways and smallish rooms. They are not air-conditioned. My son was in Fauquier his freshman year two years ago. He did have a window A/C unit (allergies). He didn’t seem to mind it too much. </p>
<p>Don’t worry - no dorm is so bad you won’t be able to bear it. Frankly, there is no “luxurious” freshman housing. Stick it out until you are a junior or senior and can get something in Jamestown.</p>
<p>By the way, I lived in Dupont my freshman year, 1979-80, in the before A/C days for everyone (almost - I think Old Dominion had A/C).</p>
<p>yea… don’t live there if you can avoid it =P</p>
<p>Location for the Caf and gym is solid. Not so good for classes. I mean, for W&M… some schools have dorms that are a 30 minute walk from some class buildings, but W&M isn’t like that, so “long walk” is relative. Rooms are small. No AC. Good location to get to the frats.</p>
<p>If I am selected as a Sharpe Scholar, I don’t think I have a choice in housing. Although, I think that is part of the whole public service experience: Living with people that are also passionate about community building/service</p>
<p>That is probably true. I think all the Sharpes live together. Even if you don’t get it, hopefully you will continue to do service anyway. I think the number is something like 75% of WM students do community service, so you will be in good company regardless =)</p>
<p>I don’t think Botetot is really as bad as some make it out to be. They have really nice and large lounges for the relatively few people living in each individual building. They also have some really nice courtyards that I wish I could have had! If I remember correctly, the lounges in Botetot are also equipped with AC. The location is nice for the rec and caf and frats, but the big drawback is the long walk to old campus where many classes, events, and meetings happen.</p>