<p>I am pretty ambitious... and I want to double major in engineering and business. However, McIntire says that when you double, you are still only awarded 1 degree (a BS in Commerce). </p>
<p>Can anyone comment on this? I mean, if I am not additionally awarded a BS in engineering (after I have essentially earned it), then what is the point? </p>
<p>As a frame of reference, I am only 2 classes away from earning the business minor that the engineering school offers. </p>
<p>Commerce students may pursue one major and/or one minor in the College of Arts and Sciences or other UVa school outside of Commerce. Students may not declare two minors, but they may declare a major and a minor. Courses may not be double counted toward the fulfillment of a major or minor. Prior permission must be obtained from the chair or director of undergraduate programs of the department in which the student is seeking the major or minor.</p>
<p>In pursuing the above, students do not receive two degrees from the University. They receive a B.S. in Commerce. Concentration, major and/or minor status is reflected on student transcripts.</p>
<p>"If you were truly ambitious you'd know that you don't need both degrees to be a baller. What a waste if time."</p>
<p>Typical snotty UVA response. </p>
<p>I'm not doing it to "be a baller" slick. I'm doing it because I want to learn as much as possible, and both subjects peak a lot of my interest. I only used the word 'ambitious' because I understand that undertaking both would be a lot of work.</p>
<p>But I appreciate your valued input. Thanks for stopping by.</p>
<p>What? UVA snotty? Have you ever been to any other schools? Christ.</p>
<p>I still can't understand how both subjects can interest you enough that you'd sacrifice such enormous amounts of time to pursue them. Engineering is so incredibly applied - why not study physics? And business, from what I've seen, is best learned on-the-job. Why not study economics?</p>
<p>but you still get a two majors, just not two degrees. You get a BS in commerce, major: commerce, major: engineering. If you were in the College it would be the same way, BS in whatever you got from the college, majors: econ and eng or whatever. I think...</p>
<p>B&S, did you ever call our office to talk to someone about transfer admission? After</a> your posts in May, I suggested that you call to get answers to your questions.</p>
<p>Consider a BS in engineering and an MS in Commerce (a post-grad program). The MS in Commerce is less involved and the Darden MBA and is fairly popular with engineering students who want more business study.</p>
<p>Ehh, I'd rather not go down that road again. Said discussion broke down to the point where people who had been admitted with similar statistics felt I was calling their acceptance a sham, and I was having to defend myself so much that it started to simply sound whiny.</p>
<p>Feel free to PM me what the admissions office told you, if you want to. I know I had hardships against you at one point, but I later realized that they stemmed from hardships/battles I was facing on my own, and I'd like to hear your side of the story as well as the adcom's office :)</p>
<p>I think B&S is referring to the transfer thread, not to any conversation he had with a dean.</p>
<p>I don't suggest PMing me (obviously, many people PM me, often looking for information that can easily be found in a Google search). Call the Office of Admission and speak with someone about transfer admission.</p>
<p>Having two degrees in Engineering and Commerce would look better than a degree in Commerce with a tiny blurb about fulfilling the requirements for a degree in Engineering.</p>
<p>I say go for a BS in Engineering and a MS in Commerce or MBA instead of the double major. It is the most common route for people wanting to go into Engineering and Business.</p>
<p>at some schools, you can be enrolled in two different schools at the same time, for example, the E school and the A&S school. A dual degree is then a degree from both schools, you are effectively enrolled at both schools, you walk twice at graduation, etc. The big thing is you fulfill the area requirements of both schools, so its much more rigorous than just fulfilling the reqs of 2 majors and the area reqs of one college your officially enrolled in. At UVA you cant do this, you can only be enrolled in one schools, so you get one degree with two majors, it would be the same as if you did it at the school where they offer dual degrees, uva just doesn't offer dual degrees. </p>
<p>This was actually a big minus for me when I was looking at schools because some of the ones I was considering (RPI ad CMU) both offer dual degrees. Then I realized I have better things to do with my life than do college 2ce in 4 years (which is essentially what your doing). things like, for one, not dying. Oddly enough, doing a dual degree is substantially more impressive to employers/schools/peers than just the double major, at least at schools that offer both. But again, unless the curricula are very similar (at CMU, if you did your electives right, you could dual degree in CS and MATH by taking like 1 extra class) then its really not worth it.</p>
<p>There is a big pet peeve I have about UVa engineering though. All of the major requirements are ALL CLASSES. there is no set of "Engineering requirements" and then "Major requirements" even though all engineers regardless of major have to take basically the same set of classes in the first year or so. I think thats broken, because it makes it much more diffcult to double major. If you wanted to double in, say, Chem and ME from in the E school, you would need all of the E school first year (basic requirements) and then the major req's, but only the chem major classes. From A&S, you need the area (basic requirements) and then all of the classes from the basic and major reqs of the ME degree, instead of just the major reqs. I dunno, Im kind of rambling, this just bugs me.</p>
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<p>Umm, no. Academic graduate programs care about coursework, recommendations and research, not necessarily major(s). Employers care about many things, and even the most selective employers hire people with single majors (sometimes even in humanities or social science disciplines!).</p>