<p>Since you're from the northwest as opposed to the northeast, take a flight to Logan, drive to Cambridge and talk to students.</p>
<p>I'm not usually a mediator--in fact, I usually just lurk here--but seriously, guys, cool it. Neither of you has enough information about the situation of the other one to qualify any of his statements, so I suggest we stop this disagreement before it escalates into an argument. Both of you probably think that what you're saying is completely logical and accurate (if you purposely say untrue information on this forum, you should consider a change of mentality), but from an unbiased perspective, it's clear that you disagree and no good will come if you continue to try to prove each other wrong. It won't work. As the adage goes, "A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still."</p>
<p>I did. Everyone I met, including those I know personally, were incredibly charming and knew how to handle themselves in public. These are kids who have been surrounded by social gatherings and events all their lives.</p>
<p>Exactly. May we please move on? As I said very clearly, the anecdotal stories are completely useless.</p>
<p>you have to be pretty damn smart though, olgita. Oh, and have a cool personality. theyre looking to ditch the nerd conotation</p>
<p>None of the Harvard tour guides on our visit were particularly nerdy. A few of the girls, including our guide, seemed a little over the top in heart-felt earnestness and gushing enthusiasm though. But I guess that's a preferable quality in a tour guide to other traits, like apathy.</p>
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<p>I'm not a big fan of anecdotal evidence and disagree with DocT's assessment of Harvard students. However, I have met DocT's daughter a couple of times, and she doesn't deserve any of the comments here, which are at best unconstructive and at worst rude.</p>
<p>It is my experience that the realm of boy-girl dynamics is largely dictated by the wide diversity of students' profiles: geographical, cultural, intellectual, and physical.</p>
<p>You can take any quality described (geographical, gender etc.), and mix up these next generalizations (please, I know they are sterotypes, but are meant to tell a story, not be factual) :</p>
<p>Examples:
-a California athlete, non-religious, sexually active since 10th grade, multiple partners, laid-back, with no thoughts of commitment or romantic gestures meets:</p>
<p>-an abstaining European Catholic with a literary sense of courtship, romance, honor or</p>
<p>-an East Coast affluent social climber intent on making socializing a career-networking activity, only interested in finding the person from the "right" final club, or "right" wealthy family. Sees the opposite sex as a path to self-gratification, or self-aggrandizement.</p>
<p>-a rural mid-west to westerner raised with old-fashioned values of honesty, respect, golden rule, looking for old-fashioned dating, someone who calls and cares</p>
<p>-a Southern belle/beau, raised for some amount of pedestal-placement, looking for a white knight/princess, or just a series of hot dates</p>
<p>-busy, exhausted DI athletes who spend all their time with teammates practicing or drinking, search for a little (very little) weekend night "love" </p>
<p>-internationals with strict religious tenets aghast at American culture of permissiveness </p>
<p>-the males/(females?) who have spent too much time during their teen years addicted to computer porn and can only objectify the opposite sex</p>
<p>-the total academic student who really had no time for a social life in his/her teens and is in a state of amazement at their new-found freedom</p>
<p>Mix these, and 5,991 more variations, into the Harvard melange and the result can be confusion, disappointment, and a low frequency of successful M/F relationships.</p>
<p>On the plus side, Harvard has frequent dances, a student pub, great organizations, (and classes too!) in which the students can interact and bridge their differences. I bet most would not give up one single second of Harvard life.</p>
<p>I think the disagreement here just reflects different ideas of what vague terms like "social" and "nerd" mean. I consider myself a nerd, but I'm also very outgoing, socially confident, etc. Some people's definition of nerd does not include people like me.</p>
<p>fauve, that was a hilarious and well written assessment. i cant wait for harvard.</p>