If I apply to the CoE with preferred admission at Ross, does this give me the ability to dual major at both schools?
yes if you get accepted to both and can maintain a 3.3 GPA overall.
Btw, this would be more correctly called a “Dual Degree” since you get a BBA and BSE from two different schools.
Its a dual major if you did for example Mechanical Engineering and Material Science, but that’s still a single degree BSE.
Dual Degrees usually take more time and credit hours.
The most common engineering major paired with Ross is IOE since its generally considered the easiest one. The second is Computer Science Engineering because it has the least number of credits required.
That makes sense. Thank you for responding.
I don’t see the value of a Dual Degree in Business and Engineering. It will not enhance chances of employment greatly, and it takes way too long to complete. Even if you come in with a tonne of credits, you will still need at least 10 semesters to graduate. A dual degree in Engineering and Economics, or in Business and Computer Science from LSA is more manageable…and just as marketable. Engineering and a Minor from Ross also works nicely.
@Alexandre Can a minor from Ross be obtained as a student from any college or would I also have to obtain admission to the school?
The Minor from Ross is a Ross program, which means you need to gain admission into it. that being said, it is a relatively new program, so I do not have visibility into how difficult it is to get admission into the program.
@Alexandre Thanks for the information.
that’s not worth doing at all.
Just do engineering and take more IOE electives which is more applicable than Econ or take a few Ross classes/Minor
http://michiganross.umich.edu/programs/non-business-undergraduate-electives
You’d be better off doing a 5 year BSE/MSE program or BSE and the Ross MSM program. Compensation is about 50% greater with a graduate degree.
What kind of work would you like to do in the future?
@777Blue77 Not entirely sure, but I was thinking consulting
Consulting firms recruit from both CoE and Ross.
“…that’s not worth doing at all.”
ForeverAlone, professionally, I agree that there is very little added value to an Engineering and Economics double major. Then again, I am not sure I see any more value in an Engineer double majoring from Ross, although a Minor from Ross could be worth a look.
From a professional point of view, if one wants to work in a management track at a Fortune 500 company or financial institution, Ross is the way to go. If one wishes to work as an Engineer, CoE is the way to go. If one wants to work in consulting, then it does not matter. All the main consulting firms recruit CoE, LSA and Ross students.
However, if we ignore careers for a second, and many of us pursue a college education for intellectual purposes, if Economics appeals to a student, then double majoring in Engineering and Economics is its own reward.
It really depends on the person. There are so many different aspects of engineering (so which major in the COE matters) and there are different aspects of business. If someone wants the most flexibility skill set-wise and the most options across many industries, then Engineering+Ross can make a lot of sense if he or she wants to be a swiss-army knife.
IOE + Ross makes the least sense, because IOE is the most similar.
But EE + Ross is good because they are so different. That person would be benefit if they want the extra advantage of going from an engineer–>Project Manager-> CTO eventually. This could be done with EE alone, but Ross has the top management and strategy courses, faculty in the nation, so it would accelerate the process. Economics is more concerned with theory, unlike real life applications that Ross teaches.
yes, and we can say the same about Engineering + Women’s Studies.
ForeverAlone, Engineering + Ross can make sense, but I think Engineering + MBA makes more sense. A CoE + Ross double degree will take the OP 5 years, if not more, to complete. Is it worth foregoing one whole year of income and an extra year+ of tuition? I do not think so. If one wishes to work as an Engineering, I think a a degree in Engineering is all one needs. If after 4-5 years of work he wishes to focus on a management career track, returning for an MBA would expedite the process significantly.
“But EE + Ross is good because they are so different. That person would be benefit if they want the extra advantage of going from an engineer–>Project Manager-> CTO eventually. This could be done with EE alone, but Ross has the top management and strategy courses, faculty in the nation, so it would accelerate the process.”
I am not sure I agree. Project Management is based almost entirely on good time management and on-the-job experience.
“…yes, and we can say the same about Engineering + Women’s Studies…”
Absolutely. That was my point. And one can do so and still graduate in 4 years. So its no skin off one’s back now, is it? Of course, if the OP needs even one additional semester to complete the CoE + LSA double major, then that too would not be worth it.
Alexandre, you really enjoy splitting hairs and showing your naivety.
you make it sound so elementary. There’s a difference between a mediocre Project Manger and a great Project Manager. I’m not saying its impossible without a BBA, just that it helps accelerate the process.
Let me simplify it for you.
Economics = theory
Ross = more suited to applications in real life
Its easier to get into the BBA program than a top 25 MBA program.
This depends on the student. If s/he already has Calc 1/2, physics 1 and 2, foreign language, chem, and other general elective credits. Then this can be done in 9 semesters or even 8 semesters with the well-planned scheduling.
This wouldn’t be a good idea if the student had none of the fundamentals coming in and very few credits. And the more common scenario, a student like that would less likely be accepted to both COE + Ross.
But at this point, its kind of pointless debating you since you have no clue what you’re talking about.