Duke or University of Chicago with specifics

<p>Well, I am down to two choices: duke or the university of chicago
I've done research and to be honest it has been very difficult to decide so here is a thread that describes what I am looking for and issues I am thinking about. I will be very appreciative of any help!</p>

<p>Wants:
A solid pre-med experience with a major in economics (not sure which path to follow, medicine or economics, so I want my options open)
I do want to have fun but I don't plan to party that much so I know that negates Duke's partying scene
I am an avid runner and thus I need surroundings that allow me to run 5+ miles (don't mind looping but I want to make sure there are safe and easy places to run, sidewalks, trails etc.)</p>

<p>Issues with either:
Durham? how bad is the town? do people who go to Duke mind?
East and West Campus at Duke, is this a hassle to go back and forth? issue at all?
Segregation at Duke? is this prevalent?
UofChicago's cohesiveness, I want a school that has some spirit and some activities together, how is this here, I don't know how much of what I hear is exaggerated
I hear most people at Chicago move off campus, does this detract from the experience with less students actually living on campus
Quarter system vs trimester? I really do not know which would be best</p>

<p>The two are virtually the same cost. I'll add to this if I come up with more.</p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

<p>I was in the same position as you (circa 3 days ago). If you look back you can probably find my page. I actually just decided yesterday to enroll at Duke for plenty of reasons. Believe, I was absolutely IN LOVE with U of C, ever since my 9th grade year actually. However, I just didn't feel like I really connected with the "chicago" student- the quirky/nerdy, intellectually curious, avid learning type. In addition, I actually based a lot of my decision on what people wrote on each respective UChicago 2012/Duke 2012 group. Trust me, you can tell by what they're talking about that U of C and Duke are for two completely different people. Duke just seemed a lot more laid back, and that's what I liked. In addition, the U of C people were randomly obsessed with some Stephen kid, which I thought was weird. I mean, "Stephen" seemed like a cool person, but the sheer fact that everyone was embracing him for no his ability to make witty comebacks was kinda lame...</p>

<p>Durham sucks, but hyde park is unsafe. Pick your poison i guess.
U of C has no school spirit in the rah-rah sports type, but i did feel a cohesiveness among students. Duke, obviously, has basketball. nuff said. </p>

<p>Quarter system is apparently REALLY tough.Chicago econ is obviously better than Duke's, but I've heard that most of its strength is in the GSB.</p>

<p>Finally, if you want to run, Duke has its forest, and the gardens. I run too, so this was actually really important to me.</p>

<p>Thanks CNI for your help!
I think my decision will also ultimately be based on opinions of students to get a true image of what the actual experience is during the year.
To add to this, I don't fit the "quirky/nerdy" stereotype of chicago though I can get along with them. But i figure a college is gonna have a diverse group of students so I can find people of my personality as well at Uchicago. (But if not that will factor in)</p>

<p>Hey, I'm a Duke freshman....</p>

<p>Wants:
A solid pre-med experience with a major in economics (not sure which path to follow, medicine or economics, so I want my options open)
I know of PLENTY of people who major in econ and are premed. The premed program here is excellent - I think it's something like 85% of premeds get into med school or something while the national avg. is waaay lower. I'm not actually premed so I don't know the actual stats, but many friends are and this is what they've said.
I do want to have fun but I don't plan to party that much so I know that negates Duke's partying scene I really don't party much, and I'd say around half or maybe slightly more of my dorm doesn't (and I'm not in wellness either). It's really not a big deal. There are plenty of other things to do.
I am an avid runner and thus I need surroundings that allow me to run 5+ miles (don't mind looping but I want to make sure there are safe and easy places to run, sidewalks, trails etc.) I'd say Duke is excellent for this. Thousands (literally) of acres of forest, trails everywhere, many people often run from East to West campus, there is a trail around East campus, several sidewalks and stuff on West, the Duke gardens to run through. There is DEFINITELY no lack of trails or (very gorgeous!) places to run.</p>

<p>Issues with either:
Durham? how bad is the town? do people who go to Duke mind? Um, Durham's really not great...If you're on campus you're fine, but going off campus after dark can get pretty dangerous. If you want a big city with lots of off-campus activity, Duke's not the place to go. Everything we have is self-contained, basically. Everything happens on campus (which is actually kind of nice - less need to walk/travel). But overall, it's ok in the daytime - there's a mall a few blocks from East campus, 9th street with many many restaurants and stores just 2 blocks from East.<br>
East and West Campus at Duke, is this a hassle to go back and forth? issue at all? Honestly, if you're a freshman and living on East with all your classes on West, this could get annoying at night when the buses are running ever 10 or so minutes. Otherwise, there's no problem at all. If you're trying to catch a bus during the weekday before I think 6 or 7, there are more than enough buses there. Often I'll get to the bus stop to see 2 or even 3 buses just waiting there. You really shouldn't factor this separation into your final decision. It's not a big deal, basically, and when you're living on West it's certainly not at all an issue.
Segregation at Duke? is this prevalent? It can be, and whatever exists is self-segregation. The main thing I've seen is international students who tend to stick to themselves. A friend who's international was telling me that a lot of the students coming from the same country were friends there and chose Duke together, so that probably explains it. Overall, my friends include whites, Asians, African-Americans, and Hispanic, and I know most friend "groups" do. </p>

<p>But as CNI was saying, UChicago and Duke are very different schools, and you'll have to visit both or talk to lots of people from both to figure it out. I'd describe Duke as full of very laid-back students who care about their grades, but not to the point of cut-throatness at ALL. Regardless of whether or not there's a curve, everyone helps each other out, and I've never met anyone who's openly rude/unwilling to help. People are incredibly friendly and open-minded, and it's also really easy to form your own circle of like-minded, yet diverse, friends. I hope this helped a bit, ask if you have any more questions, and GOOD LUCK! :)</p>