Duke vs UChicago vs Wisconsin-madison (help please)

<p>Okay, so I know the third option is random but I really like madison(city) and I'm getting full tuition. Anyway, at Duke I'm getting a pretty good packet after loans and work study I only have to pay about 9000. I have not receive my packet from UChicago.. I hope is good. I like UChicago because is in Chicago and it's about 40 min from where I live( I don't if I like that). I have not gotten to visit Duke so I am not sure if I love it or not so feedback for that school will be greatly appreciated. I am undecied on my major but I'm thinking on going into med school, so I want to go to a undergrate school which will give me the best opportunities. Right now I'm getting very caught up on ranks and I want to look beyond that. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!!</p>

<p>Keep in mind that if you want to go to med school, it will be expensive and that you will need a high GPA. Go wherever you think you have the best chance of success. How many loans are you taking out at Duke? If it’s a lot, the full tuition at Wisconsin may look very attractive. Wisconsin is a very good school as well (not top tier as UChicago or Duke but you won’t have a problem getting into med school if you do well there as well). Did you get into the honors college at Wisconsin or anything like that?</p>

<p>I only have to take out 3000 so I think I would be fine…and yes I’m in the honors programs and I’m a chancellor scholar at Wisconsin.</p>

<p>well since it’s only 3K I think the decision is up to you. Obviously Duke is the better university.</p>

<p>I’m not sure if UChicago’s Financial Aid is as good as Duke’s but at any rate Duke is by far the premed school out of your current choices.</p>

<p>Check out how well Duke is represented at the elite medical schools compared to Wisconsin and Chicago:</p>

<p>Washington University School of Medicine
[Who</a> Chooses WU](<a href=“http://medadmissions.wustl.edu/HowtoApply/selectionprocess/Pages/WhoChoosesWU.aspx]Who”>http://medadmissions.wustl.edu/HowtoApply/selectionprocess/Pages/WhoChoosesWU.aspx)
Duke: 79
University of Wisconsin-Madison: 24
University of Chicago: 20</p>

<p>Vanderbilt Medical School
<a href=“https://medschool.vanderbilt.edu/admissions/undergraduate-schools-represented[/url]”>https://medschool.vanderbilt.edu/admissions/undergraduate-schools-represented&lt;/a&gt;
Duke: 15
University of Chicago: 3
University of Wisconsin-Madison: 2</p>

<p>Ohio State Medical School
<a href=“http://medicine.osu.edu/students/admissions/Documents/classprofile.pdf[/url]”>http://medicine.osu.edu/students/admissions/Documents/classprofile.pdf&lt;/a&gt;
Duke: 12
University of Wisconsin-Madison: 3
University of Chicago: 1</p>

<p>JHU Medical School
<a href=“http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/sebin/u/p/SOMCatalog0910.pdf[/url]”>http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/sebin/u/p/SOMCatalog0910.pdf&lt;/a&gt;
Duke: 14
University of Chicago: 8
University of Wisconsin-Madison: 7</p>

<p>If Duke is cheaper than Chicago, then this decision is a no-brainer.</p>

<p>Those numbers are only relevant if they are based to who applied to each school and what % got in. For all you know, 56 Duke seniors applied to JHU medical school and only 14 got in, but all 8 U of C seniors who applied to JHU medical school got in. Comparing the 14 and the 8 is meaningless unless you know the size of the applicant pools respectively. This is a pretty elementary math issue and it’s embarrassing how often it’s repeated on CC.</p>

<p>^well it’s used nicely by people who want to use the numbers to prove their point haha</p>

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If we use common sense, there’s no way the level of interest in medical school is that different between Duke and U of C. In fact, here are the statistics…</p>

<p><a href=“https://www.aamc.org/download/161114/data/table2-6.pdf[/url]”>https://www.aamc.org/download/161114/data/table2-6.pdf&lt;/a&gt;
Duke: 355 (# of med school applicants in 2011)
U of Chicago: 170 (# of med school applicants in 2011)</p>

<p>So, there appears to be twice as much med school interest at Duke than U of C but Duke is still far more than twice as well represented at all medical schools. Also, just because Duke has more med school applicants as a whole, that doesn’t mean that the school has more extremely qualified applicants than U of C which is what it takes to get into JHU or Wash U Medicine.</p>

<p>Only the top fraction of premeds at either school will have the chops to get into a top 10 medical school. However, despite the fact that both student bodies are about equally accomplished, one school sends a lot more students to the elite medical school. This is a combination of the fact that Duke has better advising, more grade inflation and perhaps greater clinical opportunities for premed due to the med school being attached to the main campus.</p>

<p>“All” medical schools? Or just the ones you cherrypicked?</p>

<p>Add NU or U of Chicago med schools to the list and see what happens. Everything’s regional.</p>

<p>^Actually, I think you would be surprised Pizzagirl. At Chicago’s Business School, Duke, Penn, Georgetown and Northwestern are all better represented than UChicago undergrad.</p>

<p>Check it out:</p>

<p>[Top</a> Feeder Colleges to Chicago Booth | Poets and Quants](<a href=“http://poetsandquants.com/2011/10/06/top-feeder-colleges-to-chicago-booth/2/]Top”>http://poetsandquants.com/2011/10/06/top-feeder-colleges-to-chicago-booth/2/)</p>

<p>Also Pizzagirl, I listed 2 medical schools located in the Midwest (Wash U and Ohio State) on that list. There’s no reason that Duke should be better represented than UChicago in its home region wouldn’t you agree?</p>

<p>Id call the Duke admissions office and see if they can give you aid to attend blue devil days so you can decide for yourself. I visited both this summer and really liked duke more than UC, but that’s obviously a personal preference.</p>

<p>What did you like more about duke? And yeah I email them today if they don’t respond I will call.</p>

<p>Look, if you do well at any of these three schools you will get into a good medical school. Chicago and Duke are mid-sized universities that are extremely hard to get into. All the kids who go there will be first rate academically. So they will be very competitive institutions. You can count on that. I went to Wisconsin and got a great education. As you say, Madison is a fabulous place to be a student. But it is a huge school and you are strictly on your own there. Also, unlike the other two, the student body at Wisconsin is not uniformly excellent. In-state students do not have to rank at the top of their class to get in and even out-of-state students are not uniformly first rate. But you will find students there who are as smart as you find anywhere else. Even so it will probably be easier for you to get a high GPA at Wisconsin than at the other two schools and, as is well known, GPA counts for a lot when applying to medical schools. If you really like Madison my advice is take the money and run.</p>

<p>Goldenboy:</p>

<p>You like Duke, and that’s great, and you’ve been very pro-Duke in past posts. </p>

<p>There is a two-fold problem with the stats you present, however:</p>

<p>1.) The # of students applying doesn’t demonstrate the caliber of students applying. When I was at UChicago, I was always surprised that the very top students - the ones with great grades and sterling resumes, all seemed to want to get PhDs. During my time at U of C, I was lucky enough to know a bunch of really brilliant students - kids with great GPAs who would have aced the MCAT. NONE of these students, though, seemed to gravitate toward professional schools - they all got PhDs in chem, math, etc. </p>

<p>So, it may be the case that at Duke, the best students have med school at the top of their list, whereas at Chicago, the cream of the crop go to PhD programs. I imagine Chicago is more pre-professional now than when I was there, but there is probably something to this. U of C seems to glorify the PhD over all else, and this trickles down to the undergrads. </p>

<p>2.) Your b school representation list is compiled from a study based on facebook - obviously, such a study contains holes. Along with this, see point 1.) of my post - the top Chicago kids may not be gravitating toward business.</p>

<p>Again, this is all hard to say - go with fit and reasonable finances above all else. UChicago used to not be great on pre-professional placement, but this is changing and improving quickly (perhaps at the expense of intellectualism that was prevalent on campus 20 years ago). </p>

<p>Duke and Chicago are both great schools, and pretty much equal on all fronts. Wisc could make the most sense financially, though. Less debt is much more valuable than more prestige, in my opinion.</p>

<p>Go with Wisconsin! Full scholarship and you like the city…that’s tough to beat.</p>

<p>Actually I think duke is the cheapest right now…would only get out with 12000 debt…haven’t heard back from Chicago yet</p>