<p>The College Board and USNWR list ED acceptance rates. But where would one find the profile for those ED admits? In other words, to use one example, if Amherst received 336 early applications (2004), and accepted 40% of those applicants, where (if anywhere) would we see the profile for that group of admitted students?</p>
<p>I'd imagine on that college's website.</p>
<p>Thanks, but, no, I've looked on the college's and several other websites. It's not there. The office of institutional research at each college or university posts the Common Data Set for each year (or at least most do -- see link elsewhere on this forum), which describes in section C the total numbers of regular and early admits. And of course many sources publish the profile of both the admitted and matriculated class. But, that includes both regular and early admits. The profile (i.e., statistics) for the early admits remains unavailable (apparently). It would be valuable information to have.</p>
<p>It will be very hard to find out the profile of the ED admits at Amherst or any other school as a large number of the ED admits are hooked applicants; athletes, legacies,developmental admits, some URMs in lesser numbers, and Questbridge Matches (at Amherst)</p>
<p>(keep in mind that many URMs may hedge their bets and apply RD so that they can compare schools).</p>
<p>For Amherst:</p>
<p>According to their 2005 common data set : </p>
<p>Number of early decision applications received by your institution 364 (this means 364 students applied overall applicant pool) A total of 6273 applied to Amherst with 364 (5.8% of the total applicants) applying ED.</p>
<p>Number of applicants admitted under early decision plan -127</p>
<p>ED admit rate is 34.8 %</p>
<p>RD Admit rate = 1048/5909 = 17.7%</p>
<p>Applications 6273 total pool - 364 (ed) = 5909 (RD)</p>
<p>Acceptances 1175 Total pool - 127 ED = 1048</p>
<p>ED admits are 10.8% of the overall class</p>
<p>Thank you very much. I have those numbers for 2005, 2004 and 2003 from the Common Data Sets for each of the 8 or so schools that I'm looking at. Interestingly, by the way, the numbers are very similar for Amherst for 2003 (17.7% for RD and 34.7% for ED). </p>
<p>But, here's the question: what is the profile of that group of 130 admits for 2003? And the profile for the 127 admits for 2005? Anyone have the data?</p>
<p>I'm not so sure that they're hooked necessarily. In fact, the authors of The Early Admission Game (based on data that is now ten years old) suggest otherwise. Maybe we have to resign ourselves to having only the raw numbers for early admits (e.g., 127/364). It's also available for current years on the premium edition of the USNWR. But knowing the GPA, SAT and other profile data for the early admit group would be invaluable. Anyone?</p>
<p>You can get some ED data for some schools from press releases or articles in school newspapers issued at around the time ED decisions are made. Examples for Williams, Dartmouth, and Princeton for Class of 2010 are below. I'm not aware of anything similar for Amherst. </p>
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<p>All most all recruited athletes are asked to apply ED at their respective schools as coaches want to lock in their players.</p>
<p>Legacies, get the most benefit of being a legacy during the ED round (as it does show a commitment to attend)</p>
<p>Developmental admits (students whose parents are poised to donate major bucks to the school) benefit from ED as the school wants to make sure they have those donor dollar locked in.</p>
<p>WesDad, thank you, that seems to be the most accessible source. But, it's not much. The information is not available on most sites and, even where available, the data becomes sparse. No mention on the Bowdoin site, for example, of test scores (2003): <a href="http://www.bowdoin.edu/news/archives/1bowdoincampus/001219.shtml%5B/url%5D">http://www.bowdoin.edu/news/archives/1bowdoincampus/001219.shtml</a>. The mean SAT I scores for the ED admits at Dartmouth (1424) and Williams (1429) gleaned from the press releases on the links that you kindly provided don't allow an apples to apples comparison with their RD cohort, although it is moderately interesting because, if nothing else, these numbers continue to confirm that the early applicant pool is not much different (and perhaps slightly weaker) than the RD pool. In fact, Avery et al. confirmed that very point. The point remains that elite colleges accept higher percentages of early applicants than of regular applicants. If we all had the same kind of admissions data that we find about RD applicants, students could make more informed decisions about their participation (or not) in the ED programs. The pitch -- apply early if you really love the school --is exactly that without some information. I realize that the system is here to stay, so I'm barking at the moon. How hard would a little information be on this important point? </p>
<p>As Christopher Avery and his colleagues wrote in the Early Admission Game in 2003, "The truth about early admissions is hard to discern." Indeed.</p>