<p>@ifailedusamo how come you understand the scholarships for URMs but not the ones for females? I’m male myself, but I still believe it’s fair for girls and URMs to have more opportunities. I know that I will have to rely on my own merits to get into college, but where’s the problem in that exactly?</p>
<p>It would be fair - if it wasn’t for the fact that women make up the majority of college students anyway. I’m fine with scholarships for girls only; that’s fine. I’m just somewhat perturbed that there aren’t similar (at least that I know of) scholarships for males, who are at the moment the minority in colleges.</p>
<p>Just a guess but I can imagine that many women’s scholarships are privately funded by successful women who want to ensure a continued path for follow-on women scholars. </p>
<p>Alternatively, scholarships and active recruiting for men is some traditionally under-represented fields is extremely real. Examples include male nurses and especially, African-American male teachers in Math/Science.</p>
<p>it’s actually easier for a guy to get into LAC’s.
But the reason girls are over-represented isn’t because guys are discriminated against: it’s because many teenage boys focus on sports and other things than academics, they don’t like to write, and when they wake up, it’s college time and their applications just aren’t that good. Colleges want to recruit students who will graduate and yes they will cut some slack to athletes (big sports are football and men’s basketball, let us not forget this) but they won’t pretend that a kid who had everything going for him but slacked off and got C’s throughout freshman and sophomore years then thought a good SAT score would somehow “erase” a lackluster junior year, is the equivalent of a kid who had mostly A’s with a few B’s.
Boys who get A’s and can write well actually have an advantage over girls who have A’s and can write. How is that for fair?
Also, remember that the great majority of financial aid comes from the college itself.
So if you’re looking for scholarships, it’s always the same: you need to stand out - don’t follow the path everybody follows. As T26 said, if you want to go into nursing you’ll readily find scholarships.</p>
<p>"Two words: Affirmative Action.</p>
<p>There are more women because colleges make it easier for women to get in"</p>
<p>It’s astonishing how many male affirmative action opponents have no idea that in college admissions, they themselves are the beneficiaries. “A Kenyon College admissions officer acknowledged in a New York Times op-ed in 2006 that “the standards for admission to today’s most selective colleges are stiffer for women than men.””</p>
<p>MYOS164, I can’t believe that you see no flaw in generalizing that most guys don’t get into college as much because they think they can play college sports and not worry about academics. No guy in my entire class has that viewpoint. I like to write, I have worked on my applications since June, and guess what? I also play varsity sports. </p>
<p>prs: that’s not what I said at all 
I didn’t talk about college sports as an incentive to not study, but rather about high school sports weighted at the exclusion of academics is a concern for a greater percentage of boys than to girls (outside of a parenthetical remark about football and basketball wrt scholarship opportunities, which referred to a post above mine complaining there weren’t enough scholarships just for boys, I was talking about high school).
What I said is that guys don’t get admitted to college at the same rate as girls because their applications simply aren’t as good <em>overall</em>. We’re talking aggregates. This is especially true when you look at second and third tier colleges.
As I said, guys who focus on academics as well as sports don’t have a problem (it’s only when only sports is a focus that it’s a problem) and in fact tend to be favored in admissions.
But look at any statistical data about boys’ achievement and you’ll see that guys underachieve <em>as a group</em>. There was even a slew of books analyzing this phenomenom about 10 years ago. I think right now 2/3 D’s and F’s are given to boys, for instance.
The fact you and your friends don’t follow this pattern is great, but it doesn’t invalidate the data or the pattern, alas.</p>
<p>When it comes to STEM or business, females have an advantage because they’re trying to balance the gender ratio. </p>
<p>When it comes to Liberal Arts, men have an advantage because they’re trying to balance the gender ratio. </p>
<p>It depends on the college itself too of which gender is applying more. The lesser gender have a advantage. </p>
<p>Women are more likly to apply for college because men tend to have more opportunities if they are just a HS graduate than females. Men HS graduates makes almost 2x more than women if they’re just a HS grad. If a women wants to make money and be successful, she knows she have to go to college. Men don’t really have to </p>
<p>I don’t think it’s fair for men to have an advantage based on those facts I just stated.
But it is fair for women to have an advantage based on those facts I just stated. </p>
<p>To the poster above. You don’t think it’s fair to have more advantages just because they have a vagina? I don’t think minorities should be at a disadvantage based on their skin just because somebody else was born white. ( not talking about AA just life in general). I don’t women should have an disadvantage when it comes to leadership positions because somebody else was born with a penis. I don’t think a 16 year kid should have a advantage when it comes to drunk driving and killing four people just because he was born wealthy. It’s the way society is set up. And to change that we have to have AA and other “advantages”. When women make up 50% of the world leadership and POCs have 83% of the world power.Then, maybe we can have a convo about colorblindedness and gender blindness but until then we can’t. </p>
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<p>This may be valid for engineering/tech schools. It is not true for LACs or most universities. </p>
<p>You want gender to be a advantage, pick a school that you know is lopsided that way and be of the gender that they are seeking. GTech, in fact a lot of tech type schools do give females a tip and sometimes more. My friend’s DD got a nice scholarshp as a female engineering major Guy with her stats would have been on the brink of acceptance/not at that school. Yes, it can make a difference.</p>
<p>If a man and a woman have the same grades, SAT, ect. the woman can have a slight advantage in an engineering school because they wish to bring more women into the math and science field. Other than that it is almost equal, but no way is it easier for men.</p>
<p>It’s a man’s world, unfortunately.</p>
<p>It’s more likely that more women applied. High school girls are outperforming boys right now, so more girls will be applying, driving the acceptance % for girls down.</p>
<p>Tech schools specializing in Engineering, computer science, and math tend to have a lot more guys than girls. </p>
<p>Liberal arts schools with english, teaching, life science, etc. tend to have more girls than guys.</p>
<p>In general more girls than guys are in college. Probably because there are also more guys than girls in the trades, starting their own businesses, construction, and doing things that don’t require a college degree.</p>
<p>It may seem like girls are starting to take over higher education and therefore starting to overcome the male dominated workforce…but… liberal arts degrees in English, biology, psychology, women’s studies etc… are the fields that tend to be underemployed/jobless upon graduation unlike those in engineering, computer science, or even the trades like plumbers. Still pretty male dominated world. </p>
<p>Don’t forget about affirmative action, many private schools increase your chances if acceptance if you are a minority, low income, female, ect. </p>
<p>Although women are outperforming and outnumbering men in education, once we get into the workplace we are paid less, receive less raises and overall get less opportunities to succeed : /</p>
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<p>Maybe a minority. Most private colleges actively discriminate against low income students, by their financial aid policies and the things they look at in applications, and being female only helps with, as has been said, in some engineering/tech schools. </p>
<p>Evelync, not true at all. The “gender pay gap” is a myth. The “pay gap”, in that women earn 77% of what men earn, ignores what career the person is in, their experience, education, how much they work, etc. It’s a very, very biased statistic. In fact, straight out of college, women earn 109% of what men earn. </p>
<p>Sources: </p>
<p><a href=“It's Time That We End the Equal Pay Myth”>http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2012/04/16/its-time-that-we-end-the-equal-pay-myth/</a></p>
<p>As for someone who earlier on said that men actually benefit from affirmative action, that’s not the point. No one should benefit or lose out because of their gender. We should strive for EQUALITY. </p>
<p>As for the person who said “it’s a man’s world”. No, it’s not. It’s not 1950. Men are discriminated against as much as (or more than) women. </p>
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When we get to this kind of “point” I think we should close the thread.</p>
<p>To the OP -
I have not read this entire thread so I apologize if this has been stated. I have a daughter who is a senior in high school right now. You are right, “guys have it easier”. There are more girls who are applying to college and that is probably because, to be honest, they have higher qualifications and are more mature. Okay, yes, that is a blanket statement and doesn’t fit for everyone. I did have a long talk with a college admissions counselor at a very highly regarded of LAC on Mid Atlantic/east coast. She told me the hardest student to place is a white, female because there are so many of them. So that alone makes it “easier” for a guy to get a placement. But, as you noted most college break downs tend to have more girls than guys so apparently those “hard to place” girls are finding a place. </p>