<p>"for the majority of people, cornell is easiest."</p>
<p>I agree with this statement, but it's the wrong way to look at it. Saying something like "Penn is harder to get into than Cornell" is too broad -- you can't just average the acceptance rates of the School of Nursing and Wharton. Instead, you should compare Penn's Nursing School's acceptance rate with Cornell's Nursing school's, and do the same with the business school. It just makes more sense and gives you a more accurate picture for you, specifically, based on your intended major.</p>
<p>The title of this thread should have instead been "Easiest Ivy League to get into for [OP's intended major]"</p>
<p>the only way we'll ever know for sure what the "easiest" ivy to get into is if we get where every single person who applied for any ivy or more and how they fared in them. </p>
<p>in my personal experience i've seen every permutation basicaly happen (some accepted by harvard but not columbia, columbia but not princeton, princeton but not harvard, etc etc) virtually every permutation seems to be possible these days, even the so-called "lower ivys" are included. so bsaed on personal experience, regardless of admissions rates i do think there is no easiest ivy to get into; its a crapshoot for most.</p>
<p>milki--some of the Cornell colleges are SUNY sponsored colleges, so if you apply to those particular schools, you will be treated as a NY applicant applying to a SUNY school (obviously, a SUNY school which is much more selective than the others)--its easier to get in. Not drastically easier, of course, but still easier. Just like its easier for CA residents to get into UCLA. This gives you a boost that you wouldn't have at any other Ivy League university.</p>
<p>"How can you say this? Do you really think that a lower acceptance rate means that a school is more difficult to get into? There are so many variables in the admissions process, that such a blanket statement just seems foolish to make."</p>
<p>I was just stating my opinion that most people consider Cornell the easiest Ivy to get into is due to its high acceptance rate. I don't believe that's flawless measure of how easy it is to get in.</p>
<p>These days, any school with an acceptance rate under 20 or even 30 percent is ridiculously hard to get into. This is even more true now since the number of "qualified" applicants I'm guessing has jumped tremendously.</p>
<p>Cornell's acceptance rate for the class of 2011 was 20.5% and it get lower every year. but I agree with kk, acceptance rates tell little of the difficu;ty of getting into a school. 20.5% of applicants got in, but that does not mean that the chances of each student getting in was 20.5%.</p>
<p>I would agree that Cornell is the easiest Ivy to get into, particularly for ED. But that being said, remember it's still Cornell and the applicant pool is largely self-selected and very, very competitive.</p>
<p>Cornell is somewhat easier to get into than the other Ivys. Let me summarize the reasons.</p>
<p>_ It has to build a large freshman class. At ~3000, its 50% more than Princeton,Harvard,Yale,Princeton,Dartmouth.</p>
<p>_ Small applicant pool (New York State) for the 4 state sponsor schools, thus high admit rate.</p>
<p>_ Continue building out, the new housing initiative expands the capacity of housing more students, thus the cycle continues</p>
<p>_ Individual schools varys. Arts and Science admit rate is within range of Penn, its closest Ivy brother in size. Engineering is self selective. And I already mentioned the 4 state-sponsor schools whose student bodies are indirectly self-selective.</p>
<p>ummm... no offense kk19131, but this IS CC, life revovles around the rankings; so whther you're are correct or not doesn't matter, people just don't want to hear it put that way (sadly....)</p>
<p>Cornell admits more students because it has the largest undergrad class. If you are not a NYS resident applying to one of the land grant colleges (even then those schools reject a lot of students), Cornell is not the easiest Ivy to get into.</p>
<p>Cornell's acceptance rate is also skewed because it has public colleges as well as private colleges. The stats vary widely between colleges. </p>
<p>As for the acceptance rate, Cornell's is around 25%, but I don't know where you got the 10% for most other ivies, because I thought that dartmouth, brown, and penn were around 15-20%</p>
<p>Well, gosh, if it has a larger freshman class, all other things being equal, that alone makes it "easier to get into." Isn't MIT "easier to get into" than Caltech?</p>
<p>It seems to me that admit rate is only a suggestive indicator--wouldn't a better measure of how "easy" a school is to get into be to look at the statistics of those who are admitted? Which school admits applicants with the least competitive applications, on the average? I mean, I feel confident that the University of Maryland is "easier to get into" than Johns Hopkins, and I don't think I need to look at admit rates to say that. The problem is that the differences are harder to perceive when the schools are very close together in selectivity, as the Ivies all are. It may be that the Ivies are all so hard to get into, that the differences just don't really justify a difference in application behavior. (I always say, for example, that my chances of winning the lottery are not much enhanced by buying a ticket--I might find the winning ticket, after all--and the difference in probability is not enough to justify the cost of a ticket.)</p>
<p>There actually are public parts of Cornell that are state funded</p>
<p>&& yes, for the record, Acceptance rates actually doesn't tell how hard it is to get in.</p>
<p>They said Yale's application number dropped for the 2011 class because people saw its acceptance rate and got intimidated to apply. How hard a college is solely depends on the number of people that apply. For every one student that decides "Oh Let me Apply to Columbia", it makes it harder for those who are applying to that same school.</p>
<p>If people want, they can strike against Columbia and make its acceptance rate to 100%. All they have to do is make only 454 people apply ED because thats how many spots there are. and the rest</p>
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<p>Cornell has no "obligation" to admit more NYers.</p>
<p>Bottom Line<em>:::::::: Different school have different personalities. Just because you got into Harvard doesn't mean you'll get into Cornell! Harvard probably took you because you look like the type of athlete that will kick Yale's football squad in the A</em>*</p>
<p>Just because you got into Columbia Doesn't mean you'll get into Cornell!
Columbia probably took you because you'll fit the whole Core Curriculum business. </p>
<p>Get what I mean? Different schools have different personalites
&& by what I know, Cornell is the largest Ivy meaning they need to fill alot of seats. Come on, its twice Princeton's size so0o0o0</p>
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<p>Columbia College is statistically the hardest Ivy to get into-- knew many many ppl this year at my school admitted to HYP and categorically rejected from Columbia College & Fu.</p>