Economic issue and URM

<p>Oh, and regarding Wellesley...</p>

<p>Wellesley is the 4th-ranked LAC in the country. Only the best of the best get in there. It is in no way a "by the numbers" school. Wellesley looks for the intangibles, the whole person, what you are going to bring their college. Your interview is crucial there. People with glowing stats routinely get turned down because they didn't have "it." Likewise, people routinely get in with low stats because they do. Yes, they accept 37% (not 47%) of their applicants, but that's because it's a self-selecting school. Wellesley is a reach for every single person who applies.</p>

<p>A lot of cross posting going on, as I posted the schools stats and found other stuff so it came up before Dufus' information (sorry Dufus and Suze)</p>

<p>No school is going to tell any prosective student that "you don't have a snowball's chance of getting in" remember it is all about ranking, and adcoms already know that there will be student whose chances are nil but will encourage them to apply anyway because it makess them more selective.</p>

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Assuming by ZIP Code's a bad method, too. I live in Connecticut, where our incomes are way above the national average, but our cost of living is also way above. $50k a year doesn't go as far here as it would in Florida or somewhere else

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<p>If you apply to a school that only uses the FAFSA, it takes some but very little consideration to the fact that you live in CT and your family only makes $50,000 because your income is still higher than the national average . while you may be cash poor you could be house rich then the school would look to your parents to cash in on some of the equity in their home.</p>

<p>sybbie said: "I think that Suze is correct as of 185 students that applied to Wellesley submitting only the ACT, 63 or 34% were accepted. ---- These 63 students out of an admitted class of 1476 represent 4.2% of the admitted class so yes, overall your chance of admittance is considerably lower than someone submitting the sat with a comprable score of 1300 (even with an even split between math and verbal) had a higher acceptance rate."</p>

<p>If 34% of the people submitting only the ACT were accepted and the normal accept rate is 37%, there doesn't appear to be any statistical difference based on submitting ACT versus SAT. The fact that only 63 out of 1476 acceptances had submitted only the ACT just means that less people submitted only the ACT.</p>

<p>But people who had comprable scores on the SAT were accepted at a rate higher than the over all admit rate 37%</p>

<p>You do notice however no matter how one spins the stats, 77.7% of the admitted student scored atleast a 650 in the verbal and 77.1 % scored at least a 650 on the math.</p>

<p>Isn't the bottom line that not many 29 ACTs will be admitted there? Interesting post by Sybbie though, makes me wonder if the ACT is an overall disadvantage at selective colleges. I just told my cousin to give it a try and I'm thinking I need to call him back!</p>

<p>sybbie719, I'm eligible for a full Pell Grant, so I should be okay.</p>

<p>the school did not tell me that i would have a good chance. people from the wellesley forum told me that i had excellent stats and that i would probably get in.</p>

<p>I got a 1950 on the SAT. I think that is comparable to a 29 ACT. Should I submit the sat instead of ACT?</p>

<p>Good -> great -> excellent?</p>

<p>Wellesley only does EE for people who have applied. If you've been told you're likely to get in, that means you've already applied, and I don't think that's the case.</p>

<p>again, I was told that i would likely get in from a person on the wellesley forum. I asked what my chances were. I didn't ask an admissions officer.</p>

<p>You can't trust what people say on message boards. Anyone can comment. Even a Wellesley student wouldn't be able to comment accurately on your chances. How adcoms make decisions is best known by adcoms. </p>

<p>You can get some idea of whether you're in the ballpark by matching your stats against the profiles of the freshmen classes that often are posted on the admissions part of colleges' web sites. You also can match stats against what is listed in college guides like those by US News and Time.</p>

<p>If your stats are way above the 75th percentile of a colleges, usually that means your chances will be excellent (presuming you don't blow off the application). If your stats are within the 25th-75th percentile, depending on how selective the school is, your chances of admission may be good.</p>

<p>If the college is something like HPY, which reject about 9 of 10 applicants (and most of their applicants are very qualified for admission), even if you're close to the top of their range, the odds still will be slim simply because they have an abundance of outstanding applicants, and a relatively small number of spaces.</p>

<p>But never take the word of anyone about your chances unless you get that info directly from an adcom. Otherwise, the predictions are probably as reliable as having your tea leaves read. Even adcoms at places like HPYS don't tell students what their admissions chances are. They may say, "You've got a shot," but they won't tell an applicant that the student is definitely in or out -- until the official letter is sent.</p>

<p>if i am in the range for wellesley, will my chance of admission be good/okay?</p>

<p>People keep saying that on the 50% range, an unhooked applicant has to near the 50% mark (middle of 50% range) to have almost any shot, and near the 75% mark (top of the 50% range) to have a strong shot.</p>

<p>It would be wise to continue to regard it as a reach school. You might get in. You might not. Apply, and make sure that you have some good match and safety schools that you know you can afford and would love to attend.</p>