ED Applications down 8%

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<p>From 3,917 to 3,610</p>

<p>Although if they count the 220 Questbridge applicants (this being Penn’s first year participating in the program), that reduces the decline to ~2%</p>

<p>Why did our ED drop?</p>

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<p>I’m throwing a sexy party if Wharton’s acceptance rate ends up higher than CAS</p>

<li><p>The tanking economy means more students need to really bargain for financial aid, and binding ED means they lose the leverage they’d get if they were holding competing RD offers from Columbia, Stanford, etc. That non-binding SCEA programs at Yale, Stanford, and MIT posted huge gains lends further credence to students’ going into financial aid bargain-hunting mode</p></li>
<li><p>A continuation of the downward trend of binding ED in the face of the no-ED spree kicked off by Harvard. Jerks.</p></li>
<li><p>Witchcraft</p></li>
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<p>Hey, it's good news for us applicants. And it's not like they only turn down unqualified people, they turn down tons of qualified people as well...
I'm happy (well, until decisions, at least).</p>

<p>I am guessing it has something to do with their marketing. They were the only ivy, I didn't recieved something from, whether it be glossy brochures, letters, etc. I had to request info twice before I recieved anything. I just don't feel that they are as welcoming to applicants. I do love Penn, but it was because I went out and researched and visited not because of anything I recieved. Did anyone see Duke's new brochure, it was beautiful. I recieved quite a bit from MIT(letters, viewbooks, brochures), Brown, Harvard, Yale, Dartmouth, Stanford, Cornell, Columbia(lots). They are also the only one that did not follow up with any info after the Exporing College Options, and those types of programs. Just a thought. EDs were up at many schools there is a thread with all the stats.
PS I love Penn!</p>

<p>hahahahahaahaha</p>

<p>Wharton's acceptance rate will never be higher than CAS's.
the world would end.</p>

<p>P.S. im not making fun of anyone, i'm just saying..</p>

<p>IMO:</p>

<p>Positive- Wharton wannabes have potentially a better chance to get in! </p>

<p>Negative- people will think the 2013 Wharton class are not as good as the previous and if I don't get in then its even more devastating...</p>

<p>Thanks for the article ilovebagels!</p>

<p>assuming that wharton's target class is about 500, that means the ED rate will be like ~23 percent. This, however, also assumes that percent of the class filled by ED is consistent between the three schools. So it could be lower, but I guess it could also be higher.</p>

<p>chick... there is no way employers will look negatively on the class of 2013 and you know that...
it will still be extremely competitive to get in because the most competitive applicants applied. those who were borderline may have opted out of committing to business for undergrad so if you would be in the running anyway, its not easier.</p>

<p>^people may look down on the engineers lol...we could see somewhere between 40 and 45% of applicants accepted (assuming ~48% of SEAS is filled in ED).</p>

<p>nj<em>azn</em>premed, SEAS ED has always been like that. There's an interesting article in the engineering forums about ivy engineering prestige that you should read before you assume that SEAS kids will be "looked down on": <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/engineering-majors/578349-does-prestige-undergraduate-school-matter-engineering.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/engineering-majors/578349-does-prestige-undergraduate-school-matter-engineering.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>how about we discuss wharton instead.. about how I'm right :P lol</p>

<p>I, for one, don't really get the decrease in Wharton ED....another poster on another thread attributed it to Wall Street woes? Not everyone in Wharton goes to Wall street and besides, they would be graduating 5 years from now.....as someone without any vested interest in this (other than being an alumni), this doesn't gel.....anyone else want to attempt a viable hypothesis?</p>

<p>also, FWIW, I can't imagine this drop really means anything in terms of relaxation of standards or an increase in admittance rate for ED......</p>

<p>"The tanking economy means more students need to really bargain for financial aid, and binding ED means they lose the leverage they'd get if they were holding competing RD offers from Columbia, Stanford, etc. That non-binding SCEA programs at Yale, Stanford, and MIT posted huge gains lends further credence to students' going into financial aid bargain-hunting mode"</p>

<p>Not necessarily relevent seeing as Darmouth's Binding ED applications rose by 11%. There is probably some other factor influencing the decrease.</p>

<p>I almost fell into the whole economy sucks so don't apply to business school idea but I decided I liked wharton too much... so yes that is probably the reason</p>

<p>this has made me relax though</p>

<p>I believe that Dartmouth did release a better financial aid policy but I'm not sure</p>

<p>BUMP... any more opinions?</p>

<p>What do you guys think about the chances of ED applicants who got deferred getting accepted in RD?</p>

<p>Do you think the previous 10% statistic will be affected? (10% of deferred ED applicants get in RD)</p>

<p>I'm pretty sure Wharton's target is 600, not 500, meaning the acceptance rate for ED would be around 30-31%.</p>

<p>Jesus, I hope I get in</p>

<p>I don't know why, but before I was more chillax about it because I THOUGHT that most people got deferred and only some really sucky people who shouldn't even apply get rejected.
THEN I saw that accept, defer, reject were all about 1/3 chance.
AND I read the class of 2012 ED decisions and some people with 2300+s and really good ECs got outright rejected.</p>

<p>Right now, I'm not feeling so well...</p>

<p>i think their target is 500 for class size but maybe they accept 600 percent which would affect the RD acceptance rate because of the yield but ED because the yield is obviously 100%.</p>

<p>Chronic: Here's where I got that number (from the horse's mouth, so to speak):</p>

<p>Wharton</a> Undergraduate Program: '+pageName+'</p>

<p>"Q. How many applications do you receive for a given class?
A. Application volume for Wharton single and the coordinated degrees averages around 5,500. Each year we matriculate about 500 students in the first-year class."</p>

<p>Again, this would yield a 23% ED acceptance rate for Wharton. This also makes sense given that SEAS is 45% and CAS 37%. In order to reach that ~30% overall acceptance rate, Wharton applicants must take a beating. As you can plainly see, it wouldn't even make numerical sense for Wharton to have a 30% acceptance rate given that 29% of all ED applicants are vying for admission there...</p>

<p>Catalysis: the applicants you are referring to were likely dual degree applicants (and, more specifically, those who indicated they would prefer to not be considered for a single degree admission) and/or Wharton applicants. If you fall into either of those categories, then yes, you should be worried and, even more importantly, you should not expect to get in. Try not to stress out though!</p>

<p>EDIT: Thanks for clarifying Millhouse, that's probably where the confusion arises. My calculations hold because ED applicants MUST matriculate at Penn if accepted.</p>