Education/career paths (BA vs B.Arch) for architecture student

<p>I have a friend in high school who's applying for architecture schools this fall. We are overwhelmed about where to start and would be grateful for any help you can provide. If you could direct us to some links that have this information, that would be great too!</p>

<p>She plans to attend a school for either the B.Arch degree or a B.A. degree in architectural studies or a related field. Her tentative plan after graduation is to work for a few years (in her native country, China) before applying for an M.Arch degree in the US.</p>

<p>1) The B.Arch degree is more specialized. How different are the admissions criteria for the B.Arch degree than the BA? Is it difficult to switch from the B.Arch degree to other career tracks mid-way?</p>

<p>2) The B.Arch is a professional degree, often standalone. Is it common to get a B.Arch followed by an M.Arch? Are there major overlaps in the curriculum? Do any M.Arch schools look down on already having a professional degree?</p>

<p>3) What are the admissions criteria for M.Arch degrees? Would having significant work experience help a lot? Do these work experience have to be in a skills-intensive architectural role in order to have an impact on admissions?</p>

<p>4) Is it much more difficult to get initial work experience in the architecture field with only a B.A. as compared to already having a B.Arch?</p>

<p>Thanks so much!</p>

<p>There are many paths to becoming an architect in the US and the options are confusing. First, two disclaimers: I’m not an architect but the parent of an MArch grad who is currently working his way through the licensing process. Second, there are exceptions all over the place, and each program and each firm is a little different. There’s no right answer.</p>

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<li>When you apply to a BArch program you usually apply directly to the school of architecture and start the architecture curriculum on day one. Some admissions require portfolios; some do not. </li>
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<p>For the BA or BS in architectural studies or any other field you generally apply to the college or university’s liberal arts school, then declare your major sometime sophomore year. You may need to submit a portfolio or fulfill other requirements to be accepted in the major, but at the time of your initial application to the parent college the requirements are the same as everyone else’s. </p>

<p>The drop out rate from BArch programs is significant so I would think colleges are colleges are accustomed to absorbing former architecture students into other disciplines. </p>

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<li><p>My observation is that it’s fairly common to get an MArch on top of a BArch. The major overlap is studio, but since every studio is different that’s really not a duplication. I’d say that having a BArch is an advantage in getting into MArch programs. Many schools have two levels of MArch degrees, one for students with a prior architecture degree, one for those with other majors. Completion time for the MArch can vary from 1.5 to 3.5 years. Students can place out of course requirements depending on their undergraduate experience, though some MArch programs require that you take the whole cycle. </p></li>
<li><p>The primary element in admissions to an MArch program is a strong portfolio. Undergraduate grades, letters of recommendation, personal statements and GRE scores are also considered. Like undergraduate admissions, MArch programs are also looking for a balanced class, so demographics like gender, race and life experience are taken into account Work experience in any professional architecture or construction environment is a plus. </p></li>
<li><p>Plenty of people work for architecture firms who don’t have BArchs or MArchs. These jobs may be in auxiliary functions like marketing or model making or they may be on non-career design paths. Generally the starting salaries would be lower than those offered BArch/MArchs, but again, it depends on the firm and the job.</p></li>
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<p>Bear in mind that even with a BArch or MArch, in order to be a licensed architect you still need to complete the licensing process, which entails specific work experience and a series of exams and can take several years. Many firms will help their interns achieve this goal.</p>

<p>Some other points:
I think embarking on a BArch is a serious decision requiring a mature commitment to architecture that few high school students are prepared to make. Summer career exploration programs can help you decide if architecture is for you, but the intensity of the BArch program is hard to grasp until you’ve experienced it. </p>

<p>The other major point to consider is the money: BArch programs are often funded by need or merit based financial aid like other undergraduate degrees. Although some grants are available for MArch programs they are not generous and graduating with a pole of debt is not uncommon. </p>

<p>So basically the BArch is the fastest and most focused route, but allows for less experimentation in other fields. The BA/BS + MArch takes longer and therefore costs more, but offers a wider undergraduate experience. The choice is really personal.</p>

<p>momrath, thanks so much for the helpful info. We feel we have a better understanding of the landscape now. Incidentally, I just found out there are two different masters degree programs - M.Arch I and M.Arch II - and the second one is specifically for students who have a B.Arch.</p>

<p>She’s applying to a mix of B.Arch schools and B.A. schools. She’s applying to schools like Rice, Notre Dame, Cornell, WUSTL, and Tufts. Her grades and scores are average for those schools. Could you speak a little to the difficulty of admissions for B.Arch schools compared to general admissions? Is the portfolio the most important aspect? She won some regional awards for her paintings, but other than that, how can we know the strength of the portfolio beforehand?</p>

<p>Thanks again!</p>

<p>The MArch I and MArch II designation is commonly but not universally used. Each MArch program has its own rules on requirements for graduation so you have go check the courses required and time involved individually. Decisions can be arbitrary. Some schools offer 4 + 2 BA/BS + MArch programs which are more predictable. </p>

<p>BArch programs that require a portfolio as part of the application weigh the portfolio heavily. Cornell requires an interview which is a significant factor in admissions. You can find quite a bit of information about how to put together a strong portfolio on line especially on the individual colleges’ websites. Basically, they are looking for creative/design talent, technical skill, and effective presentation. </p>

<p>I don’t know much about admissions at Rice or ND. Cornell will definitely expect grades, scores and rank go be at the level of non-architecture students. These are all fairly selective schools. If she wants to keep her BArch options open she might consider some less selectives like Northeastern, Tulane, Auburn. Or one of the more art driven programs like RISD or Pratt.</p>

<p>If she’s applying for the BS or BDes in architecture at WUSTL the portfolio is optional. I don’t think Tufts architectural studies requires a portfolio. Their programs in art or design may have different requirements.</p>

<p>She might also look at some of the small liberal arts colleges that have strong architecture focused art and art history BA programs and have good track records in MArch admissions. I would suggest Wesleyan, Vassar, Williams, Hamilton, Kenyon, Conn College,Smith. All value artistic involvement in admissions. At some – Williams, Hamilton, Kenyon especially – being Asian would be a plus.</p>

<p>Her immigration status and need for financial aid will have a significant impact on her list, so address this first.</p>

<p>As a high schooler and prospective architecture student who has had a lot of talks with professionals in the architecture field, the difference between having a B. Arch and a BA or BS was not a big one. I specifically spoke to some people from Gensler, from different backgrounds and experiences and many of them had a BA or BS and were now working on getting their M. Arch. They told me that they like that they were able to venture off architecture during their undergrad years and were able to get more “well-rounded” educations, since for grad school their sole focus would be architecture. I too will be applying to a mixture of B. Arch and BA/BS programs. I am very committed to architecture, and have been for years, but really want to be able to have a typical college experience as well. So that is definitely something to factor when making a decision.</p>