<p>Stohare is actually from Indiana, where everyone is boring and the same. That is probably why he turned down their top ten finance program and a scholarship.</p>
<p>I agree, at this point, too, with the gap year. And since his sights are set so high and his financial situation is strained, maybe even trying to improve on his standardized test scores to be able to get more aid to afford both the top ugrad and post-grad schools in NYC that he is most suited for. His gpa and EC’s are already outstanding, so better standardized test scores might put him over the top. Those far less prestigious schools there just don’t make that much sense to attend from an academic standpoint.</p>
<p>@Calmom, I’m an Indiana Resident.
Edit: bthomp1 cleared that up.</p>
<p>So you do not think that me attending King’s then looking to a good grad school mix? I mean, the political program seems sufficient enough. Plus, getting into a good law school is, yes A LOT where you went to undergrad… but also your LSAT scores and college GPA.</p>
<p>Everyone that goes to Kings (that I’ve spoken with) have high aspirations in law or a related field (not the aforementioned “people of their type” jobs). The reason their grad school % is so low is because they did used to be an unaccredited school, so grad school is hard to get into at all. </p>
<p>On the subject of a gap year, I am very unsure. I do not understand what I would do in my time. Study for the SAT or ACT? My scores sucked the first few times I took it. First SAT was only 1110/1600, second was 1140/1600. ACT first was composite 24, second was 30 (took ACT review night course at my school for Nov - January, only to get more scholarships, not to get into NYU).</p>
<p>I’m not sure how my family would feel about a gap year. I mentioned earlier that my mom wanted me to take a gap year, but ONLY to defer a year off of NYU (not pursue other options). I am not sure how she would feel about a whole year doing… nothing (besides working, studying, etc.). </p>
<p>Do you all really feel that King’s is THAT bad to pass up this far into the game?</p>
<p>If your heart is truly set to attend TKC, then that is your choice, and all of us wish you the best of luck there and beyond.</p>
<p>If, however, you are reconsidering attending, then it is my opinion that there are better “small” schools out there than TKC. Obviously, you don’t like IUB, the strength of Kelley Business School notwithstanding. Fine. Take a gap year, find a job and work, and study for the ACT to raise it from 30 to 33 or perhaps higher. That’ll raise your chances for merit aid at some lower-ranked schools that are still significantly stronger than TKC in terms of course offerings and preparation for law school. Moreover, your gap year could provide you with a good essay topic that has the potential to “wow” the admissions officer reading your application.</p>
<p>I think I would use the current essay that I used for NYU… it’s really good, in my and NYU’s opinion obviously.</p>
<p>So if I were to take a gap year, I wouldn’t want to work or defer from NYU. I would want to start from scratch. That being said, I would apply to a school with better financial aid and try to raise my scores.</p>
<p>Do you know of any programs that offer stipends or education awards for students going to UNDERGRAD? I know Peace Corps only has education awards for Grad School. Also, a lot of them want 2 year dedication, but I would only have a year. Programs I know of are AmericaCorps, Year One, and Peace Corps… none of which fill my needs (I think).</p>
<p>Another concern is that I was awarded the Walmart Scholarship and another local scholarship… would these carry over through a gap year or would I have to reapply to these?</p>
<p>You would have to contact the people who awarded the scholarships to find out whether they would carry over. </p>
<p>You are going to NY, right? Visit Kings, visit whatever other colleges you can work in during the time that you are there. Think about what will be the best fit for yourself and your aspirations.</p>
<p>I AM from Indiana… and everyone IS the same (I’ve lived in Indianapolis, Fort Wayne, Auburn, Columbia City, Greenfield). But, I think they were being sarcastic because they know I hate it here.</p>
<p>Edit: The majority of the people are the same racially and politically.</p>
<p>Ok, so my mom will not, at all, let me do a gap year. No deferment or gap year, at all. Ultimately, it is her decision too… she’s the one footing part of the bill.</p>
<p>Doesn’t that statement just about sum up the student body at TKC? </p>
<p>I mean… if you want diversity or exposure to a range of different ideas, then it seems to me the last place you would want to be is a tiny college with a limited program and a strong overriding religious philosophy – as well as a very overt conservative political agenda.</p>
<p>Well, racially, TKC is just fine. Its not like 97% white like my high school or anything.
Politically, I can hold up my own beliefs. TKC confuses me… because yes it is very uniform in its beliefs… but its also surrounded by NYC, which definitely is not. So I dont think the political thing will be a problem.</p>
<p>I’m also now looking into West Virginia University (two aunts and cousin are alumni, recommended it to me and has spots and money open).</p>
<p>The whole point of Manhattan for the college is that they are showing that they can be courageous Christians in the “Lions’s Den”, the Belly of the Beast . . . whatever. King’s will be more like a church than a college. They want their students to be right-wing Christians and to go out and change the world. You talk about New York, but you will have to spend most of your waking hours in the classroom or in the dorm, and as a self described liberal who does not like conservative political beliefs they will be working to change you every minute that they can. </p>
<p>Here are some quotes from their administration. These people seem like missionaries, not academics.</p>
<p>“If you want to affect the culture you have to be where the culture is,” King’s president Andy Mills, the brilliant former CEO of Thomson Financial who many around the school refer to reverentially as “The Operator,” said plainly. “New York City is full of institutions that affect the world and we would like to affect those institutions.” </p>
<p>“King’s students come to New York City to live out their convictions, which is why I firmly believe this could become one of the most influential religious institutions in the country.”</p>
<p>“The secular world shouldn’t be allowed to think we’re hiding or intimidated,” Oakes said. “If secularists do a better job of winning over the country, well, they’ve earned the right to set the national agenda. We plan to train our side to compete vigorously, though.”</p>
<p>An “education of faith and consequence,” as King’s prefers to call it.</p>
<p>Hundreds of diffuse potential majors have been whittled down to just two profound, broad ones–Business Management and Politics, Philosophy, and Economics.</p>
<p>WVU is one of the up and coming universities IMO. Many young people from this area go there. Two brothers in my neighborhood will be there in the fall: freshman and junior.</p>
<p>The junior had a nice NYC internship opportunity for this summer, but had a housing issue, so he chose a different internship. Best wishes with your search.</p>
<p>I just sent my FAFSA to West Virginia. We’ll see… but everyone I’ve talked to at King’s said they’re not required to go to Church at all, its not THAT religious, and the only bad religious things are the 3 required classes you have to take in all of 4 years.</p>
<p>Again, I’m going to visit, and I’ll decide. Plus, I like fighting with conservatives ;)</p>
<p>No, I just mentioned it to her and laughed. </p>
<p>Random question, how much of a college decision do you think should be a parent or students decision. For example, 60% parents decision on which college to attend, 40% students?</p>