Emory Fall 2008 Schedule needs help

<p>My D is major in neuroscience with pre-med track at Emory, and want to take
BIO 141 w/Lab
CHEM 141 w/Lab
MATH 115 w/Lab
NBB Freshman Seminar</p>

<p>Any advise for what and who she should consider
taking this fall.</p>

<p>Thanks</p>

<p>You might have better luck posting this on the Emory thread, to get responses from posters familiar with the school and its instructors.</p>

<p>My son graduated from Emory a year ago and really loved it.</p>

<p>that seems like a very intense schedule; she might want to check with her advisor about taking chem and bio at the same time. It also might be nice to take her freshman seminar in a different area to broaden her a bit and so she doesn't feel "scienced out". I'm not sure how the labs are weighted credit wise but she might be adding another class and with the two sciences that could be a heavy load.</p>

<p>bio and chem is tough...</p>

<p>but math to put the icing on the cake??? you're just asking for a beating</p>

<p>it's honestly not that bad. I had a similar schedule last Fall, but OChem instead of 141, and Calc II instead of Science Calc, and I lived :) . it obviously all depends on the individual. If your D took both AP Chem and AP Bio in high school, she should be able to handle it (that's not to say that it'll be easy). Don't forget to take some non-sciences though! lol... she'll be taking sciences for the rest of her life, and Emory has amazing classes/profs in all of its departments</p>

<p>Augustmoon,</p>

<p>Before my daughter changed majors, she was intending NBB, with pre-med track... and her first semester as a freshman at Emory was similar. It's not a killer, and she managed to do well enough ... then decided she didn't want to be a doctor after all. All pre-med students typically begin their freshman years with a similar set of courses, taking Bio 141 and Chem 141 (or Organic Chem 171).</p>

<p>When your daughter attends freshman orientation, she will participate in FAME (Freshman Advising and Mentoring at Emory), which will provide the necessary academic advising to get "on track" with a planned major or pre-professional courseload (in order to satisfy say, med school requirements). She will be assigned a faculty advisor, and at the very least, she should familiarize herself with the resources available to her at the Office of Undergraduate Education, which is a good "go-to" place for almost any academic question.</p>

<p>As far as choosing from selected faculty/classes, as she begins to orient herself to Learnlink, she'll be able to find "conferences" that may lend insight into faculty. (I'd treat the opinions with a grain of salt, however.)</p>

<p>Thanks everyone that replied to this post. </p>

<p>Because of the Pre-Med requirement, she has to take 2 science courses each semester so she can be on track, otherwise she's going to get behind.
Am i right?</p>

<p>robbyg,
She took AP Chemistry, AP Biology and AP Cal AB and
AP Cal BC and did well on those. She made a 4 on AP BIO. Do you think she can handle that kind of schedule? </p>

<p>Since she took CAL BC in high school, does it make sense to take MATH 115 (NBB Requirement) and make an A or she should take a higher math couse. Pre-Med only requires CAL I.</p>

<p>boysx3</p>

<p>I agreed with you about she may get "Scienced out", but she loves to learn
things that related to human behavior. I will talk to my daughter and see if she wants to take other "Freshman Seminar"</p>

<p>Emory suggests that people take both chem and bio at the same time to "stay on time" but it is not necessary and can easily lead to science burn out. Many people who are pre-med and want to remain sane take either bio OR chem the first year and then take the other in the summer.
The purpose of the freshman seminar is to get people to take a class that is outside their comfort zone so they can see what else is out there. Since your D likes human behavior it might be ok but just a heads up.
Go ahead and take MATH 115 but it doesn't matter much. Some med schools require high math but it depends on the program.</p>

<p>amadani,</p>

<p>If she takes one science class in the summer. Does she have to take it at
Emory? I'm worry that if she does that she may not be able to find time doing volunteer works or other extra activities that required by Med school.</p>

<p>Your daughter does NOT need to take MATH 115.
I also took BC calc and I was not required to take any low level math courses... but just to make sure I also took Math 211 (Differential Eq.) since many med schools do require a semester of math beyond Calc I (AB) </p>

<p>I'm not saying that I don't trust in your child but from 10 students that have taken Bio and Chem simultaneously, I would say about 5 of them do well enough to stay Pre-med by their 3rd year. NBB seminar also sounds great... but why push so much science into her head? </p>

<p>There are many, a plethora of electives she can choose from including the many (excessive if you ask me) GER (graduation requirements) that she must fulfill. </p>

<p>Also, medical schools recommend you to NOT take classes that you will re-learn in med school. College should be a time to amplify your knowledge, to learn about the Spanish Reconquista to talk over wine or tea when you grow up. Linguistics! Politics!... Not everyone enjoys talking about synapses and neurotoxins during a social dinner after all. Sometimes a conversation about how English does not actually derive from Latin might be more interesting than the typical "do we actually use 10% of our brains?"</p>

<ul>
<li>EDIT - not saying that med schools do not require basics for their acceptance such as Intro Bio/Chem/Physics, I'm just saying Brain Anatomy and Human Anatomy (Nursing school course) might help but is not critical for Med School acceptance.</li>
</ul>

<p>The first summer after freshman year, Emory DOES accept transfer credit from other schools. What I recommend is the student to take 6 GER classes at some community college and hoping to pass 4 of them. That way the student will be knocking out 4 GERs out of the way through the S/U system. However if the student opts to take the summer at Emory, do NOT let him or her take over 8 hrs of credit per semester. It is very expensive and a letter grade will be entered into her record per class taken.</p>

<p>I'm getting pretty confused. I'll be a freshman in the fall, too, and was planning on a similar schedule. So far I've heard that Emory recommends taking Bio and Chem together, and that it won't be too hard to do so. But now I'm also hearing that this combination is way too difficult and definitely not recommended. So which is it? If one plans to be an NBB major, isn't it important to take both Bio and Chem freshman year? How would you major in NBB without taking these classes the first year?</p>

<p>dna3,</p>

<p>There's no need to be confused. As an incoming freshman, you will receive the benefit of FAME (Freshman Advising and Mentoring at Emory). You won't be alone in the questions you have, and although each student can choose according to what serves him/her best, you will find that there are suggested courses for pre-med track students that will satisfy the requirements of med school. As well, your advising will give you a good idea of the options that are available to you, regarding other courses and GER requirements. </p>

<p>This said, since my daughter was pre-med for about a year, and some of her friends are still, it did seem as if many were scheduled very similarly (i.e., Bio and Chem courses each semester). Now, depending on what AP exams you may have passed with scores of "4" or "5", you may be granted college credit AND in some cases also be satisfying certain GER requirements (i.e., if you pass the Calculus BC AP test, you are awarded 8 credits, plus being able to satisfy a GER Math requirement. (The FAME advisors can tell you what the current policy is and/or consult with the Office of Undergraduate Education.)</p>

<p>Although the major requirements are different, here is a link to the degree requirements for NBB:<br>
Emory</a> University | NBB | Current Students | Degree Requirements</p>

<p>Now, if you are NBB and intend to be on a pre-Med track, you may be encouraged to complete many of the Biology and Chemistry requirements earlier (e.g., 2-semester course sequences for both Bio and Chem in freshman year) because it frees you to take other upper division courses as you progress into your sophomore/junior years. Then by your senior year, you may be in a position to do some advanced undergrad research. As well, you cannot be pre-Med without thinking about the MCAT, which you may want to take before your senior year. The balance of classes for each semester will vary by student (and by sanity/tolerance level). My own recommendation is to not schedule yourself beyond your comfort level (and only you can determine what you are able to academically tolerate). Keep in mind that each Bio and Chem course also has Lab sections that take up a lot of time, so if you've got two difficult classes, you may want to balance with two less-taxing courses to maintain your sanity. Again, your advisors are there to help you steer the right path.</p>

<p>Meanwhile, here's a link to Emory's Med School site that answers some pertinent questions: [url=<a href="http://www.med.emory.edu/admissions/generalquestions.cfm%5DAdmissions%5B/url"&gt;http://www.med.emory.edu/admissions/generalquestions.cfm]Admissions[/url&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/p>

<p>Good luck at Emory, and for now, just relax! All your questions will be answered during Orientation :-)</p>

<p>In my experience... FAME sucked and it was just a waste of my time. It does help some freshmen and forces them to take GERs which of course students don't regret having taken if they have no idea of what they want to do...</p>

<p>What you should do is sign up for MORE (Multicultural Outreach and Resources at Emory), have a 1 to 1 mentor to sit with you and discuss what you want to do.</p>

<p>As a double major in Bio and Chem, I finished my Bio B.S by 3rd year 1st semester and I would have finished my Chem. B.S if I hadn't taken a semester off instead of graduating early. You won't have problems satisfying requirements. However if you're uncertain about what to do, I would recommend signing up for both Bio and Chem and see how you like it. After all, being a freshman and all, you have to option to withdraw from classes with no penalty until about a week before the end of the semester. (This was NOT available when I was a freshman...)</p>

<p>correction: you can withdraw from ONE class your first year without penalty. </p>

<p>On a different note, I like FAME for the majority of the time and thought it was helpful. In addition to a Faculty and staff adviser, your FAME group provides you with two upperclassmen. The college Juniors and Seniors do the majority of the class advising and they usually know what they are doing. There is a decent chance that one may be pre-med as well and will be more helpful.</p>