Emory for Economics?

Colleges and Universities A-Z Emory University
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<p>This is the exact same as any non-tech oriented top school. Except they have better math and CS programs. It is always skewed like this. </p>

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<p>You can call me that. I’d only agree with elitist and maybe self centered, but at the end of the day, I wish I had an aluminum_boat telling me what to do four years ago. </p>

<p>In every one of my posts, I’ve encouraged students to not settle for mediocrity - to pursue double majors, to take interesting classes and professors, and to get a quantitative background. I’ve always talked up Prelaw, classics, english and a couple other departments. I’ve always been honest about the math department (lower level classes suck, but upper level courses do not), premed (good if you challenge yourself. Horrible if you do not), and econ (just avoid this. or supplement with somethign else). </p>

<p>I’ve called administration out on their ******** when it comes to the math and cs department. I want that to change.</p>

<p>I’ve been on CC for four years. Still giving advice and helping out where I can when most people would say I don’t owe this community anything. How many other emory students can say that? Often, I agree with Bernie. My delivery isn’t as friendly as his though, which I admit.</p>

<p>FWIW, I applied to three schools. State school, Emory, and Penn. Emory is the only top 20 that took me. Upenn did not.</p>

<p>Also, at $250k, I think high school kids deserve an honest no-bullcrap opinion on what it’s like here and what their career choice is like. If someone wants a “the world is great and everything is perfect” picture", then they need to go to their friends. Not an anonymous poster on CC.
I’m not here to talk you up. I’m here to tell you my honest opinion on everything.</p>

<p>Same goes for my chance threads… If you want a “yea, I’d say you’re definitely in”, then ask your friends… Not me. I’ll give you want I honestly think. Because you deserve realistic, or even slightly pessimistic, opinions.</p>

<p>Also, it’s not like I take english majors and tell them to do CS (something they probably have little interest in). I usually tell math or BBA studetns to do that.</p>

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<p>What’s wrong with you aluminum_boat? You should have just applied to Vandy instead of Penn or Emory :stuck_out_tongue: lol (clever inside joke) because it’s so much fun and “equal” academically!</p>

<p>In all seriousness though, good to see you at least applied to two similar top 20s as opposed to nearly all of them (and then looking at the acceptances and narrowing it down to the “easiest”, I mean…“most balanced” schools).</p>

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<p>Joking aside, my point is that, although I’m more blunt than necessary, I want everyone here to end up successful and avoid the mistakes that I (and Bernie, and doryphorous) made.</p>

<p>And, I’ve never dissed Oxford. Plenty of people on campus do. They’re elitists (but unlike me, they’re elitists in a bad way).</p>

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<p>Gonna be blunt, the people on campus who diss Oxford are idiotically clueless (like those people on main who’ve lived in a bubble for so long that they believe that Georgia Tech can’t be better or more difficult at anything than Emory because Tech is a public school. These are also the same people that think Berkeley is private. I’ve seriously met people like this) and are overly stereotypical for people who attend a top 20. I just want them to laugh at the more well-developed (which may be in much higher abundance than those at a research 1 private institution) Oxford students when they are destroying a course that many on main campus wouldn’t dare even take. Gotta love the Oxford haters!</p>

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<p>Let’s not save Oxford from the criticism. It likely deserves to be bashed more than any of the CAS intro math/ CS courses.</p>

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<p>No way in hell When When… unless you are talking about those trig courses (which the intro. calc. courses on main might as well be) lol; Unless you’re being facetious, which wouldn’t surprise me. From my perspective, I know most general science courses are much better there. Social science intros, probably better, lots of stuff better on average for the average first and second year student. It’s only comparable when you choose the best instructors for such classes on main, and most people won’t because “they’re too hard”, you know the common refrain heard among students at research universities. It’s the difference between being forced into an overall rigorous/more enriching environment vs. being given the choice to challenge oneself/enrich oneself (and we know that many at elite R-1 institutions choose otherwise. You know, “I need an A no matter what!”). I’m of course only discussing academic differences.</p>

<p>I’ll take a quick jab though. Many of our chemistry instructors kill y’alls (my southern drawl) though. I don’t wanna talk about the ones that don’t (some are almost akin to a less rigorous instructor at a community college. The weaker/more average pre-med students take such instructors. Again, it’s all because of “choice”. Night and day differences across sections of a single course)</p>

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<p>Oh I was being completely serious, but I should have clarified that Oxford deserves the internal critiques it gets from current and past students. What biology majors who started at CAS say about Oxford should be regarded in the exact same way that one might pronounce their eventual degree title - BS.</p>

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<p>Hahaha! Nice…you got me! You’re right though, most of the courses are “medical school lite” type of courses (and the pre-meds know it. When they tell you their schedule, you can almost instantly predict a high GPA based upon the biology courses they include). I had to cherrypick the ones that require any level of analysis or problem solving (or just thinking in general. I don’t equate thinking to having a flashback about something I read on a powerpoint slide and then recording that flashback on the test). Also, thank goodness for my chemistry training because it probably gave me an advantage in the more rigorous biology courses/instructors I chose. </p>

<p>It is hilarious. I laughed when I noticed that human physiology now has TA sessions. Not only that, but some instructors upload worksheets that they go to the TA sessions to get answers for. I looked at the worksheets and the “problems” were equivalent to those worksheets you get in HS where you just open the book and copy the answers onto the sheet. Why they need a session to have someone explain to them how to copy and read information from a book, I don’t know. If I was a standard/average pre-health, my training in biology would be extremely poor and I know it. But pre-healths don’t need to actually become good at biology (they just need to make A’s in some biology courses pretty much. No need to "think like a biologist/any sort of scientist), so there is no incentive to change it. Oxford on the otherhand has graduated some great biologists (and chemists for that matter). I won’t mention names (one is at Stanford for grad and the other Caltech!). Again sometimes, I look at the science courses in some depts at top 20s (normally the top 5 or 10 aren’t guilty) and say, “wow, and this place has a really high caliber student body huh?!”. You wonder how some of us get away with it.</p>

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<p>Aigiqinf is an econ student. Nontraditional though. He’s bright. But I’d question whether that comes from his econ background. I bet it comes from his oxford background. Even if it’s from econ, he’s still doing a unique path and that’s what’s helped him.</p>

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<p>He’s pretty sick! Doesn’t he also do history (I think he has a grad. history course or maybe it’s econ)? Regardless, he is very similar to some of the more academically passionate main campus students we know who are very serious about their studies and pursuing it (again, not really equivalent to simply earning the highest grades) to the highest level possible without much complaints. He is a social science equivalent of these people, somewhat reminiscent of many of those who end up receiving the Britain (fail at spelling?) and McMillan (fail at spelling again?) award (they often are the most intense of the social science and humanities majors even though major doesn’t matter for those awards).</p>

<p>Another random biology anecdote that me and aluminum might get (he knows the guy in question): Me and another friend had to tell a friend in Eisen’s cell biology who has similar training (extensive chemistry and biology training with some courses at the graduate level) to me before I took Eisen’s class to dumb down his talk to exclude the chemistry references/explanations because most of the audience won’t understand it or will have already forgotten it. Eisen himself may enjoy it, but we all know that most of the audience would be lost. I remember the class as having tons of students who had never had a non-powerpoint based/regurgitation oriented biology course. In addition, his class would start off full and then decline by 20+ people within the add/drop/swap period when they found out that it was a “research-intensive” course instead of pure lecture. Good times in the biology department…good times. While that was certainly a great class, I enjoyed the environment of my graduate classes (and physical biology. The math and physics students, both undergrad. and graduate, were damned good!) much better because the students were far more interested and prepared.</p>

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<p>I’m pretty sure aigiqnf has taken every course at Emory and completed every internship ever offered.</p>

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<p>His grad cours(es?) is in Sociology.</p>

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<p>I should have gotten good enough to try grad. courses in history or political science but oh well. At least I did several special topics courses (I almost did a senior colloquium in political science, but then I had to accommodate anatomy :frowning: ). Whatever. I guess I’m not as bad as some science majors (“I hate writing, I’ll just use my honors thesis or research to fulfill a CWR”).</p>

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<p>lol Speak of the devil and one of his minions will appear.</p>

<p>So, I went to Oxford. It has its challenges and weaknesses, but I think what’s really unique about it is that it has true diversity and serves as a mechanism for upward social mobility (albeit, perhaps on accident). The best way I can describe my experience at Emory (both campuses) is that I’ve been pushed in many different ways–and that I’ve pushed back.</p>

<p>While I’m hoping to go to a PhD program, my leadership has largely been outside of the classroom. That leadership has been more so in policy spaces than in the typical resume-padding and vague notions of school spirit ECs that characterize many Emory students. And that’s one major difference I’ve seen between students at Oxford and at the College. At lot of students start at the College because they’re really good at playing the game of school, but they’re not really passionate about anything (except, perhaps, themselves). On the other hand, a lot of Oxford students have a lot of passion, but not the grade-obsession or the utilitarian view of college. Many, including myself, lack the preparation that many Emory students received in their private or well-resourced high schools.</p>

<p>I’m econ/math, but largely by accident. I don’t really identify with the major. I am taking graduate coursework in sociology and public health right now, though I decided against continuing in a grad history class this semester.</p>

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<p>lol Not really… particularly when it comes to the b-school.</p>

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<p>^ AND he can code, too.</p>

<p>One at a time, ladies.</p>

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<p>lol Not really… particularly when it comes to the b-school. </p>

<p>You’ll live without it. Chances are, the public health school can probably show you similar things, but probably do it better except for maybe some MBA classes. I had a friend a while back who transferred in and took a couple of MBA classes while in the BBA program (another example of how transfers are more willing to take advantage of Emory) and said they were really good. </p>

<p>And like you, I try to avoid identifying with the biology major except for comedic effects lol.</p>

<p>As for coding, I can only do basic matlab :frowning: , no choosiness for me.</p>

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<p>Wow, this thread took off since I last checked it.</p>

<p>So are you all saying that Oxford would be preferable to main campus in terms of academic quality (specifically regarding how well it prepares students for the BBA program)? I just found that a bit surprising. A little background info on me, I go to a school that’s just a few minutes down the road from both campuses, and Oxford has had a reputation here as a sort of remedial (for lack of a better word) campus to prep students for their third and fourth year at Main (remedial way to strong a word, but you get what I mean). Is it more of a cultural difference amongst the students at the two campuses, or is Oxford really better academically?</p>

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<p>Also, which school will best prepare you for your intended major? I want to take courses that challenge me in my subject area so that I’ll be prepared to get my BBA and MBA, but I don’t want to overload myself to the point that it wrecks my GPA.</p>

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<p>Not wanting to sound elitist but the truth is, its a backdoor.</p>

<p>Of course there’s plenty who also got into CAS but chose there but that is not the majority. Personally I don’t have a problem with it. Maybe you messed up high school. Well, here’s another chance. </p>

<p>But, its a very generous offer and a backdoor.</p>

<p>Stats don’t lie.</p>

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<p>Go to CAS. If you’re not intending to do research, then oxford isn’t for you if you can get into cas.</p>