Emory University has received a record 27,982 applications to be part of the Class of 2022, a 16 percent jump from the previous year.
Emory received applications from — and offered admission to — students in all 50 states. Admitted students represent 75 countries by citizenship, speaking more than 79 languages either as their first language or at home. About 29 percent of the admitted domestic students to Emory College are from underrepresented minority groups, including 36 students from Puerto Rico.
Emory College and Oxford College both saw increases in applications for the third year in a row. Emory College offered admission to 5,103 students, an 18.5 percent admission rate. Oxford College has admitted 4,144 students. About 58 percent of students applied to both campuses.
This year’s applicants recorded increases in both unweighted grade point averages as well as overall test scores. For instance, the median test score (based on SAT scores and ACT equivalents) for students admitted to Emory College was 1500, meaning half of them were above a score considered in the 99th percentile nationally. The median unweighted high school GPA of admitted students was 3.91.
http://news.emory.edu/stories/2018/03/er_admission_2018/campus.html
The information above is significant as the rates of admission fall to new lows for RD applicants. Hopefully, potential Class of 2023 applicants, at the very least, understand how this impacts them.
Emory admitted 18.5% in total of 5,135/27,759. If you deduct the 503/1,623 ED1 (Emory College only), you get 4,632/26,136 or 17.7%.
With a 31% admit rate for ED1, that translates to a very significant ED1 bump in chances. This should be treated as valuable information for anyone applying for the Class of 2023. While ED1 appears to close to double one’s chances, it could be significantly greater than that because the RD applicant pool is probably stronger because many first choice Ivy League applicants are applying to Emory as a backup.
The uptake from all of this if you really want to be an Emory student, apply ED1. Emory defaults to a needs based aid as opposed to many others, which provide merit aid first. You can back out of your ED1 if the finances don’t work, but go to the Emory website to get an estimate of your expected contribution first. In this respect, Emory places high value on students motivated to attend Emory, which should not be confused with demonstrated interest (calling admissions department, visiting, etc). You can debate all you want whether this is “fair” (ED1 advantage), but it’s real. Maybe there is a correlation of whether this impacts GPA .1 in favor of ED1or 100 points in SAT score. I would still think ED1 applicants fall in the 25/75 percentiles of grades and GPAs, but there is a bump within that group.
If I were a junior now in HS, I would start a process that needs to end by November 1, 2018, the date ED1 applications are due. Visit your top schools now, study for your AP exams (scores count for places like Emory), and make a decision about what school to ED. If you have a 3.9 UW and 1550 or more SAT, then you can afford to sit out ED1 process, at least at Emory and shoot for your Ivy.
@ljberkow How does ED1 apply to applicants shooting for Emory/Oxford Scholars merit awards?
ED1s can apply for merit awards. Nobody should ever count on getting merit aid from Emory because very few get it.
Do you think ED1s who apply for Scholars Merit are at a disadvantage because perhaps Emory only uses that as a lure to increase yield of RD candidates? I really don’t know except that all are eligible.
Biff - side note question for you - are students at Emory embarrassed by the SGA elections or do students not even care?
@ljberkow : I’m dead with that last one…the mess is embarrassing and entertaining to watch from afar.
@ljberkow On the one hand, I’m glad to see so many Oxford students take part in the student government.
I’m also glad to see such passion in the candidates.
The whole thing is confusing. I spend my time on campus taking part in other activities so I don’t have an inside scoop.
When I was at Emory, the SGA was mainly something poli-sci majors participated in to beef up their law school applications. Confusing is perhaps the nicest term I would use to describe that mess. Embarrassing is even too nice a term. From the outside, train wreck is the best description.
@ljberkow @bernie12
Perhaps we all fell for an April Fool’s joke …
Notice that the date on this Emory Wheel article is awfully close to April 1st.
https://emorywheel.com/elections-2018-results/
@BiffBrown no such luck. In any case, let’s not side track your thread which is very important and should impact what some Class of 2023 adopt for a strategy. That 18.5% admission rate will only go further down and the RD rate will get below 15%. It will be interesting to see how big the Class of 2022 is.
@ljberkow too damn big. Emory and Oxford have over admitted for years now.
@VANDEMORY1342 Why do you say they’ve over admitted? Is a correction coming where they will admit fewer?
@BiffBrown : No, they just do not have a good yield model, so they admit a a little over 5k(5.1-5.2k) regardless (this started when they wanted 1350+ students instead of 1300-1350. When they had 15-18k apps, they admitted like 4.5-4.8k students. Beyond yield, it kind of doesn’t matter as long as the app. numbers go up, at least the admit rate will go down. However, you have to do tricks to manipulate or enhance yield. Part of it is just accepting less of the students in the first place…which sucks for applicants but is a part of selectivity in USNWR (idiots promote unethical tactics that make applying to elites a nightmare) other factors. When they want a smaller class, I’m pretty sure they just go to the wait-list even less than they do already. This is one of those years I expect that.
Basically means Emory should market better and make a new model, so that they can admit a lower number of students and enhance both yield and admit rate (I guess lower is better in this prestige game Emory is a part of) at the same time. Like some schools will decrease in admit rate and increase yield regardless of if they get more applications because their models for predicting who/what type will come are so good. Yield indicates some weird mixture of popularity and manipulation, but most will see a good yield as popularity only when it could be an admissions office learning to play with numbers…Chicago. Great academically, but no doubt playing this game got them far in the rankings and others who played afterwards are benefiting (have benefiting) as well. Either way, Emory isn’t there. Marketing not strong/aggressive enough (means Emory needs to figure out what it is so that it can actually present itself effectively) and model obviously not good enough to play the same game. It costs to be somewhat ethical. Your rank and admissions stats which serve as the only proxy for prestige among the naive will lag versus quality level by not playing these games.
@bernie12 @BiffBrown
There’s no housing, to get back on track housing accommodation wise the class size should be 1,200 and 300 at Oxford for at least one year.
Also Bernie is right, Emory is ethical compared to peers, yes it has ED1 and 2, but it could also take 200 off the wait list instead of accepting 1000 students during RD to fill the class. So instead of 5135/27772 its 4135/27772 or 15%. Luckily stats are high enough now. Its just scary how NYU dropped their admit rate so much this year. I wonder what type of games they played?
@VANDEMORY1342 : They either played games or they didn’t. Smart students have dumb ways…did NYU recently have a ranking increase or anything? You know rational logic says, when the rank goes up, the school itself is just suddenly better and when they fluctuate or go down, worse so you must apply in high numbers to an already elite place when the rank increases. Dumb dumb high IQ students applying to elites…also admit rate due to application increases (or in general) will start becoming irrelevant as SAT scores converge. Most schools will be able to claim that on paper they have the same students even though most don’t on anywhere but paper.
I think they’ve let housing go, but I guess they have to reign in the freshman overcrowding to ensure the freshman and sophomore guaranteed housing lasts. They need to think about housing a bit more. Sadly, I think in like a decade or so, they may have to consider new construction when they could be using money elsewhere. Then we can read articles celebrating how Emory is spending something that is a huge fraction of the endowment for a housing complex. Can’t wait. Hey, at least petty and easy to please prospective students on tour will go “wow!” Bring in a football stadium and new gym they will commit as 1st semester juniors in HS lol.
Why would you ever limit admission to 1,200 when you have freshman residence spaces of !,400 or more? I doubt Emory wants to limit the number of incoming freshmen.
They were 1,388 last year and should be within 50 of that amount this year if the math is similar.
Other than ED1, they yielded 19.5%. If they do the same this year, they should be a little over 1,400. They probably have an algorithm based on statistics of admitted students how many will accept. Maybe they are shooting among a stronger group and expect a lower yield. They will probably land close to where they want.
@ljberkow I really need them to get the 1350 and nothing more…they are straining with space. Remember this past year, I think some folks had to overflow into sophomore housing. Gonna need them to avoid that happening in the future. Likely does not help with retention.
http://emorywheel.com/incoming-freshmen-displace-rising-sophomores/
Okay, looks like you are referring to the article above. Having some spill over to an entire floor of a sophomore dorm shouldn’t impact retention. If the extra freshmen were sprinkled among sophomore dorms, then you might have a problem.
For now, you may be jumping the gun and you’ll know more when they either announce the size of class of 2022 or you hear sophomores start complaining about housing assignments.
@ljberkow : People are petty…trust me. Especially at Emory. There have been annoying Wheel articles about how downtrodden they were because they have to eat in the DUCling and how a performer did not show up for Dooley’s week that year (because of some scam). Also, I’m not saying it necessarily impacts the people who are displaced so much as makes a decent constituent prone to being petty extra sensitive looking for things done wrong at Emory. Point is, if you are a place like Emory, you don’t want people second guessing the ability to manage things like housing. That can affect more than just those displaced. Bad optics.
There was some idiot article talking about how “love for Emory was conditional”, an article highlighting complaints about inaccuracies and things any school or elite school is guilty of. It is full of pettiness. Emory sometimes gets those who are weird and are just looking for stupid reasons to transfer.
@bernie12 lol yes, some students look for reasons to transfer, then they get to the new school and realize they had it good at Emory, and transfer back. Know at least 4 who did this BS.
@VANDEMORY1342 : You need to not know such people…petty and crazy. Who has time, money and so little social integration in either environment to just easily transfer back and forth like that? Such people are impossible to please and likely have other issues. May be better transferring to their homes and then entering college later.