Hi everyone - I have received numerous emails from Emory University, and I wanted to see how it ranked nationally because I know very little about it. Thanks!
Emory does not have an engineering school. Please use Google.
@TomSrofBoston: Thank you so much.
Also, national ranking may not be the best way to choose a school, even engineering school, but okay.
Emory has an Engineering Sciences major (Bach of Science) with optional subspecialties in engineering physics, materials science and geoscience:
Emory also offers a dual BA/BS with Georgia Tech and Georgia Tech has a large and expansive engineering offering:
Most everyone reading the Emory forum is well aware of the dual Biomed engineering program with Tech. Have to agree with @TomSrOfBoston. IF you get emails from a college and may be interested in its departments and programs, a good place to start is the college/university’s own website.
@jym626 I doubt a high school student is aware of Emory’s Engineering Sciences major and how its dual degree program works. On that score @TomSrOfBoston’s answer is incomplete.
@BiffBrown first of all, the OP stated elsewhere that he wants to pursue ChemE so its irrelevant for his question. Second, I stand by my suggestion that people should read the college website as their first fore’ into college consideration. @TomSrofBoston’s comment is clear and to the point. He’s a well respected poster on cc and his point is clear.
@jym626 @TomSrofBoston’s point is clear(ly) wrong. And I pointed out how by citing to the very Emory website pages that you agree should be a first resource.
Big universities like Emory have probably hundreds, if not thousands, of web pages. There’s no harm in a high school student asking for help finding those pages on CC.
I haven’t followed the OP around CC and don’t know what else he’s posted.
Georgia Tech has a great Chem E and Biochem Eng program that can be accessed through Emory’s dual degree program. Thus, the existence of this program is relevant.
Ga Tech’s chemical engineering program is ranked #2 in the country by US News and World Report:
https://coe.gatech.edu/rankings-and-stats
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Moving on. Ga Tech’s engineering programs are not the discussion here. And if someone who is looking at college doesn’t have a basic understanding of how to navigate the website, well thats a sad state of affairs. A student interested in Chem E would not be wise to look at Emory. Emory is a fine school. Just not the first choice for an engineering student. And you know that.
@BiffBrown : Do not try to sell programs that Emory does not have or does below average in. If this person wants to start in an engineering program, direct them elsewhere. Emory would NOT be a good option. And it is definitely not a good option for those who can’t go to the website or use Google to find out a little about the school and its programs.
*Save the unnecessary pandering and yield boosting to other schools on this site where posters like say things akin to : “Come here even if these other schools are way better in all your areas of interest because of a single reason”. If you want to help sell the school, sell aspects and programs truly worth selling that actually align with the students’ interests. Engineering Sciences and the Dual Degree Program do not cut it unless the students wants to for sure double major in something non-engineering or non-STEM. There was no indication of this or really anything. Pick battles to fight wisely. I even find the need to do this more often. Not every one is truly worth it.
@jym626: Thank you…it also shouldn’t be the first choice for those who don’t wanna bother do research and expect us to do everything for them. Again, I will save the “must yield every student to apply whether school is a fit or not” for other schools on here. Why waste time?
Thank you, @bernie12. Your post is spot on.
One last point, to drive home what @bernie12 is saying- unabashed cheerleading of a school is unhelpful, especially when it tries to trump up a program that is not what the OP is asking about or essentially misdirects the OP. If the OP wants Chem E (and @BiffBrown, the OP has only a handful of posts- it takes just a few seconds and keystrokes to look to see if there is a bit more information about their interests.) Its not “following them around”. Its simply doing a bit more research/gathering a bit more information to help the OP and perhaps redirect them to schools that better fit their interests.
@Blaubach
Engineering is not offered here, but does have a 3+2 program with nearby Gtech
@bernie12
I think Emory is trying to expand the program and see if its viable to implement despite the cost. Several students from my high school have said Emory has contacted them despite being engineering. Emory is trying to get their toes in the water i think.
@emorynavy : It is not expanded NOW. The physics course offerings have not changed/increased further to reflect this and chemistry is still working out the kinks in its new curriculum. They should wait until whatever (if anything) is fully developed
Emory should not do that unless it is specifically selling it as: “Could be good for people who also want to major in a liberal arts area including non-engineering STEM”. If they are not doing this, they are reaching for applicants. Also, don’t sell the 3-2 program (it is still unclear whether all of the entry chem courses count for Tech or not). That scenario is unideal for those who want engineering only. There are headaches with credit equivalencies and all of that. One also needs to use advanced standing/AP credits in STEM to complete the Emory degree without a large amount of stress in 3 years. And Emory has made this harder by limiting students to 4 courses worth of AP. For those who want to do engineering only, it is much less of a hassle to start engineering.
Also, don’t trust communications, marketing, and admission always. They have a job in this case, get apps. Any type of engineering clearly sells so to tell students about anything that remotely sounds like it may lead to interest regardless of quality. I personally think they need to find matches for good programs. Maybe tell about chemistry, whose changes I didn’t believe in at first, but now would readily sell versus many other programs, especially those at other research universities. QTM is a automatically being a hit and has seen high levels of growth. Many talented students considering strong publics and privates likely have interests in areas like that. Just in metro Atlanta, you have places like GMS, and other charters/magnet publics that could have students seriously interested as well as several of the private schools producing lots of future STEM majors that apply to Emory (though QTM will appeal to both). They like us should sell or inform about the programs that are strong/much stronger versus peer schools than is given credit. When other peer schools have straight up engineering programs, which the overwhelming majority do, it really isn’t worth it but for a specific crowd. If someone expresses the engineering interest I would refer them to google and ask if they wanna double major in some non-engineering discipline before going any further to explain any of Emory’s options.
Exactly. And while many schools offer 3/2 programs for engineering, very, very few actually do it, for a variety of reasons.
My posts are 100% accurate and direct the OP to seek out more information through university resources.
I am not inflating anything about what Emory has to offer.
I personally know people who’ve completed the Emory/Ga Tech dual degree program. It’s not just a theoretical option.
People who want liberal arts + engineering would do well by it. A lot of engineering heavy schools like Ga Tech and others don’t offer liberal arts.
I also know that there’s a fair amount of academic and social connection between Emory’s and Georgia Tech’s campuses, which are close to each other and connected by an easy to access and free shuttle bus.
https://pts.gatech.edu/other-shuttles
https://bme.gatech.edu/bme/georgia-tech-emory-shuttle-service-schedule
Students from Georgia Tech can and do take classes at Emory.
Emory students often travel to Georgia Tech for parties.
Emory students can and do work in Georgia Tech labs and vice versa.
The Georgia Tech/Emory biomedical engineering program (ranked #2/3 in the nation) is expressly a joint venture between Georgia Tech and Emory Medical School.
http://chbe.gatech.edu/
I myself had an offer to work in a Georgia Tech biomedical engineering lab but ultimately turned it down.
Let’s not presuppose that what a high schooler with few posts REALLY wants. I gave her/him some facts and leads to pursue.
And lets not presupposes that this student may change their intended major. Even if they do, its irrelevant to the CURRENT questions and information presented. Strawman arguments and cheerleading is unhelpful. As for cross-registering with Tech, it is not automatic, and is space-available. . https://registrar.gatech.edu/registration/cross-registration https://registrar.gatech.edu/info/questions-frequently-asked-georgia-tech-students-attending-other-arche-institutions
OP, if you ever return, please look at Emory for many excellent majors, but at other schools for Chem E majors. Best of luck to you.
@BiffBrown : No one said they are inaccurate. They just are not worthwhile in this case. Period. I have spent too much time wasting space and commentary (often defensive) on posters like this (and iin general) who should not really be interested in Emory or do not take the time to do their own research. You should not got down this road. It is a waste and will do no good for the OP, you, or Emory. Just leave it be. Help find them a REAL engineering program and move on. Do not waste time selling and defending something like engineering sciences and 3-2 to a person who strongly implies an interest in traditional engineering programs. Recommend them to Georgia Tech, Urbana-Champagne, NCSU, and some reach engineering programs and move on. This ain’t it for them. It just isn’t.
If you wanted to defend a program that is the same or directly analogous to an Emory program and is being under-estimated by the OP, that makes more sense. But with this case, Emory nor the OP should really be taken that seriously.
@jym626 : I am learning to pick worthwhile battles. Many others need to learn as well. In addition, our job is to help students. Even if they come on our forum, I still feel uncomfortable going out of my way to get their application if the school is less likely to be a fit. I also need not mention the fallacy of the “you may switch” argument. The fact is, there are tons of competitor and non-competitor schools that not only have ChemE but have really good programs for them to switch into that are not engineering, including many STEM focused institutes and universities whose undergraduate programs in several non-STEM areas are usually stronger than what people give them credit for (so yes, at many, you can change your major to something done well). What if people did this to WUSTL, JHU, and Emory, all schools known for sciences and pre-health, but just so happen to be regarded highly among schools for undergraduate writers/English programs, and other non-STEM programs? Wait, they do it already, and we tend not to like being stereotyped as one-trick ponies. Why should we then make assumptions about the programs of other schools?
@jym626 : Emory has some data on the 3-2 I believe and it still has low participation Participation may have actually been higher back in the dinosaur ages when I attended 6-7 years ago lol. Definitely not an area of growth. The restructuring (including the engineering sciences major) of physics majors has not resulted in much enrollment and major growth I don’t think either perhaps because, again, their course offerings to undergraduates are stagnant. The areas that have been large and of high quality have interestingly seen the more interesting curricular changes for the better since the later portions of my tenure there or since I have left. They have bigger faculty, more resources, and more students, which probably drives bigger changes because they will have a bigger impact on what graduates from such departments will learn/can do with their majors. That engineering sciences and 3-2 program though…still not seeing much excitement or progress with that.