<p>i am considering a concurrent undergraduate degree in business administration and engineering. this will take me 5 yrs to complete and i will graduate with a bachelors degree in engineering and anothter bachelors in business. also, the courseload might limit my coop/ internship opportunities. Can someone advice me on whether its worth spending that extra year. does it open up more doors...make you more attractive a candidate for a business job..etc?
thank you</p>
<p>Actually, I'm kind of in the same situation as you, I'm thinkng of going to Umich and major in business and industrial/operations engineering. I'm not sure if this is a crazy idea and if it will be too much work. Is it actually worth it to do a double major like this and what jobs could i possibly get.Plus if i do the double major and i dont get into umich's business school my junior year, then i'd still have engineering to fall back into. Any suggestions?
Thanks</p>
<p>a-bomb, apply to Penn's M&T Program. You graduate with a BS from Wharton (the best ug business school) and a BS from Penn's SEAS (top 30 engineering school)...you graduate in 4 years.</p>
<p>bern, i've applied to the M & T program :) (which is amazing and i think worth it - cuz it is 4 yrs and its from PENN!!)...I actually asked the question because I am considering other such programs which aren't outright #1 choices for me (unlike the M & T which is my top choice)</p>
<p>i think if you don't get into m&t other engin+business programs are also a really good comp advantage. pure engineering is a bit risky because of the way that the economy is evolving, while pure business is getting a little too generic (even mbas are getting a little watered down since so many people are getting them). if you have both coming out of undergrad, you're def going to be an attractive candidate (esp. for consulting firms and tech focused investment firms). at the same time though, other factors go into whether or not you're an attractive candidate: school you're graduating from, GPA, and DEFINITELY summer experience. but i imagine you should be manage to squeeze in one or two internships if you're staying for 5 years ...</p>
<p>as a side note, posted this elsewhere, but here's some reasons why m&t is a good program (gosh i feel like i've been spamming m&t info lately - sorry! too much free time as a senior):</p>
<p>1) it lets you do both engineering and business. For some, this solves the problem of taking the first steps towards a definitive career decision while still in HS, and for others, its great because it lets you combine knowledge from two extremely useful disciplines (which have amazing synergies when properly combined).
2) it has an amazing alumni base. I recently talked to an alumni on the Forbes Midas Touch List who started up a venture capital firm that manages over $1.5 billion dollars and hes just one of the many amazing alumni of the program. Since the program is so small, (~50 students a year for 25 years), the alumni are usually willing to take time out and give advice to undergraduates. Ive talked to heads of VC firms, MDs at banks, partners at consulting firms, company presidents, etc ...
3) its an amazing group of people. Some of my best friends are from the program because it brings together similar people (NOT because the program forces it upon you). The program is pretty laid back in how its administered. Students can choose to involve themselves as little or as much as they want to ...</p>
<p>thanks hichew</p>
<p>Hichew, I am glad to meet you again.
My boy wish to study MBA. In case, is Penn M&T very good for MBA? Or just for undergraduate?</p>
<p>glad to be of help :) </p>
<p>the m&t program is only for undergraduates, though i have the feeling that i've heard people mention a similar program for mbas ... what a lot of people tend to do for mba is go to a school based on what they want to study. for example, if you're interested in finance, then wharton is the place to go. if you're intersested in technology and business, then MIT, etc. (i think harvard is more management?). i'm not definite about the mba process though since i haven't gotten around to doing mba research. </p>
<p>if the question is whether or not m&t is good as an mba substitute, that would probably depend on what you want to do and why you need the mba. given how many undergrad/mba courses overlap, on the knowledge front, i think you can get away without an mba. but, a lot of companies want people to have mbas just as a title (pre-req for promotion) or lots of people use mba as a way to redirect their careers. so, a number of m&ts do end up getting an mba (though there are also those who never do).</p>
<p>Thank you, Hichew,</p>
<p>Please let me clear my question.</p>
<p>My boy excels in Science and Social Study, especially in Math. He wish to do MBA for his graduate study.
I think it would be better to major Science, Technology or Humanity for his undergraduate to do MBA later. Or he can do double major just like Science and Economics, Humanity or Economics, or M&T. Now he must decide his summer program depends upon his future major. In case, I wish to know if M&T program is the better choice for him. Your advice would be appreciated.</p>
<p>in terms of getting into mba - i believe the mba decision is based in large part on general undergrad school (gpa, etc.) and also heavily on work experience afterwards. i really can't pretend to know if a preference is given for engineers, etc. - but i don't think it makes that large of a difference - its more of what you did with your time, are you smart and are you interesting. what i would reccomend though is not to plan so far out because there's no telling whether or not 6/7 years down the line, he'll actually go get an mba.</p>
<p>i think the better decision at this time would be for him to pursue something that he's interested in, or rather use this time to find out what path he wants to do (b/c in the end, people excel in areas that they have true passion). if he's strong at math and science, and is interested in business, then i really think some kind of dual degree/joint degree program would be good for him. this will give him an opportunity to see early on what he likes about each discipline, and perhaps get him on the right track to do something interesting with his life.</p>
<p>don't know if that helps any :) but what i've learned from my senior year in high school to senior year in college is that a lot of things change in four years - whether it be your interest in certain subjects or even you relative aptitude!</p>
<p>Hichew, appreciate for your advice. You made me relax.</p>
<p>in what specific ways is a business+engineerin doubel deg bttr than an engi deg +one yr or so MBA?? thnx</p>
<p>sory if this has been discussed b4 :o</p>
<p>Even if you don't get into Penn's quite selective M&T program, there is an opportunity to dual-degree, where you get the same degrees as you would if you were in M&T, minus the added prestige & connections & a semester worth of general ed classes. Also, they say M&T is a 5-year program but most kids, even the regular dual-degrees, finish within 4. </p>
<p>Penn is one of the few schools that lets you overload easily, most Eng+Business kids take anywhere from 5 CU( which is the norm) to even 8 CU.</p>
<p>If you're interested, make sure you mark off WH as your choice if you don't get into M&T. It is quite selective (3.7ish frehsman GPA) to apply into WH from any other school than vice-versa.</p>
<p>bump!!.......</p>
<p>haha neha1, you have the same name as me, and also the same question..how ironic..</p>
<p>hey! tts cool...:)
ok i dun wanna start askin u where u are from n all, visit the indian thread on the inlt forum and intro yourself :)</p>