Engineering in Germany...need your help guys

<p>I think I am going to Germany because it is cheaper and overall it is better than Cleveland State university. :slight_smile:
about the language I see it this way “I am gonna learn a new language” …</p>

<p>best;</p>

<p>Turbo, you are my favorite poster</p>

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<p>This is a much much bigger issue than the language part. Your grades will look like crap when competing for top grad schools. You might be forced to do master’s in Germany.</p>

<p>@XtremePower:
do you agree that German Schools are Harder than US ones? if so >>then why?</p>

<p>paralysis by analysis</p>

<p>Europe is a mixed bag for college in terms of ‘easiness’. Back in the 80’s my Elbonian buddies that went out of the country to study found that countries like Italy, Romania, and Yugoslavia (? :)) were relatively easy to graduate from, the UK was pretty easy due to the passing grade being a LOT lower than US, France being a royal pain due to many factors, and Germany was a major pain simply due to the language. Spain and Portugal were a bit too far away.</p>

<p>The grade issue was important - in the US, engineering is pretty much a passing grade = B, while in the UK and other places, a passing grade was 50%. I got out of college in Elbonia with a 75% GPA overall, which was a top score (got in 1st in my class and out 5th out of 50). But I know of nobody who got more than 80%-85% except one who’s now a renowned professor in the US. And his GPA was around 90%, one person.</p>

<p>So, country X may sound like a good idea until you realize that an undergrad GPA of 70% does not sound all that appealing to US grad schools… Those days there are ‘credential evaluation’ services that supposedly can provide the right conversion… </p>

<p>But I agree with ChrisTKD above, this is leading to information overload…</p>

<p>German is not as bad as people say :slight_smile: </p>

<p>There is no grade inflation around here (Germany), so engineering is quite a challenge. But you’ll do ok, just don’t give up. As there are no tuition fees, it is common practice for students to repeat courses and exams several times. failing is not a huge deal.
Best of luck!</p>

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<p>Same as in Elbonia, ah, the memories. Back in my days depending on the class one only had to re-take the final to pass a failed class, and only needed to repeat the class if it had a lab. Is this the case in Germany too?</p>

<p>In tomorrow’s episode Turbo comments on the number of times he repeated the Differential Equations final :slight_smile: to get a 50%…</p>

<p>I’m bookmarking this because, Turbo, you’re hilarious. If I lose this thread, I might not find any of your posts again. Soooo funny …</p>

<p>Through my work, I interact with a number of German engineers, including some affiliated with Universities. One University guy told me that the admissions standards at the TU’s are not so high, but that many students struggle and don’t make it through. Those who do make it through receive a very good education.</p>

<p>Attending a University in Germany at a low cost, and then attending graduate school in the US sounds like a better plan than attending a low-ranking school in the US at the undergrad level. Those with an MS or PhD from a US University have a much easier time getting a visa to stay and work in the US than those with just a BS.</p>