<p>csulb awards a full ride scholarship to NMFs. on the website, it is stated that this presidential scholarship is "competitive." anyone know how competitive?
also, since many other good schools (auburn, u of alabama, asu, u of houston, etc) offer full rides to NMF, would it be a waste of such a scholarship to go to CSU lb? or is the engineering school at csulb good enough that it doesnt matter?</p>
<p>This year alone there were 50/630 applicants accepted to this program, so it is fairly difficult to get into. Based on your stats, it’s safe to assume you would win this scholarship. I couldn’t help but notice that you are preoccupied with paying for college. If money is a really big issue for your family, you can still apply to UCs and other private schools (which you have a fair chance at getting admitted to). I know several people who have to pay as low as $5,000 a year for a UC education, but mind you, they make much less than your family. Unfortunately since your family is making 100k+, you won’t receive too much gift aid, but since your parents are already making so much, I don’t understand why you are so worried about paying for college. Anyways with your stats, you should probably aim for at least UCLA or Cal, or even a private school.</p>
<p>yes, i would like to graduate from a decent undergrad engineering program with little or no debt. admittance to a great school in not my goal; my efc for many of the top schools is between 20-30k/year. also, 100k a year quickly disappears with our mortgage and 3 siblings. i would rather accrue debt while attending a top engineering graduate program</p>
<p>I did not mean to sound condescending. I apologize if I came across like that. Money was a big factor for my family as well, so I completely understand where you are coming from.</p>
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<p>Unfortunately I don’t know about the engineering program at CSULB, but they offer a graduate program, which too many schools do. I know several of my friends who are going to be engineering majors here though. I think it would be a good idea for you to apply here since you are a California resident. You’ll have a better chance at getting in, than if you were out of state. Things get kind of iffy when you are out of state especially with the difference of out of state fees, which some schools might not cover even for NMFs.</p>
<p>sorry if i sounded defensive: you did not sound condescending at all. i just wanted to explain my situation and why the UCs may not be the best fit for me. i am trying to figure out if the pros of CSUlb-nice weather, in state, relaxed atmosphere, possibly a nearly free education-would outweigh my perceived weakness of its engineering program</p>
<p>What makes it seem weak to you?</p>
<p>being a csu, one would think that its engineering program would not be on the same level as a uc, or a national public university (u of alabama, etc). hopefully i’m wrong though because the weather and environment at csulb really do appeal to me</p>