Engineering Sciences

<p>Does anyone have any information on studying Engineering Sciences (specifically Environmental Engineering) at Dartmouth? I have a junior daughter who is very interested in applying next year and would like some insight if anyone has anything to share. Thanks so much!</p>

<p>Ditto for me and BME.I am comparing this school with the likes of Duke, JHU, and Columbia, so I want to know how the program stacks up. Only got till May 1 to decide!</p>

<p>I would personally go to Duke for BME. In my opinion, Dartmouth engineering is small, and it's actually a terrible program. They emphasize 'general engineering' so you really don't get to learn anything. But mech E seems okay. Hope that helps.</p>

<p>I just visited the Engineering program at Dartmouth and was pleasantly surprised. I didn't look into environmental engineering specifically, but here's a general overview:
--All engineering majors get a degree in Engineering Science (not specifically mechanical, electrical, environmental, etc.)
--They offer a Bachelor of Arts degree (works like any other major) or the ABET-certified Bachelor of Science (five-year program for most students)
--many classes are project-based (working with a group to build a prototype), and undergrads get lots of access to the machines and labs.
--emphasis on applications in industry, product design. Many of the professors also work as engineers for actual companies, final presentations for some classes attended by members in industry.
--Currently constructing a brand-new engineering building in addition to the current one.
--especially strong (world leader) in engineering related to ice.
--Allow/encourage modified majors and double majors.</p>

<p>I don't think you're talking about the Thayer School of Engineering - that's graduate only. Dartmouth's undergrad isn't split into different specialty schools the way Cornell or Penn or something is.</p>

<p>Xanatos is right. It's the same building and same professors though.</p>

<p>The Bachelor of Engineering (which is what you probably need to get a real engineering job) is through Thayer, if I'm not mistaken.</p>

<p>Boy, I had a friend at Thayer School... haven't seen him in months... I wonder how he's doing.</p>

<p>Just Kidding. Five year program (it is undergrad), and you're still part of the Arts and Sciences (i.e. still have to do distribs.) I think its main appeal is for students who don't want to abandon all liberal arts education completely. And you end up with a Bachelor of Engineering.</p>

<p>Oh, and an ENGS prof just invented a machine to melt ice. Yeah.</p>

<p>As others have said, it's the 5 year program to get a BE, but your 4-year engineering concentration can still be environmental. Here are the courses for the env. engineering track: <a href="http://thayer.dartmouth.edu/thayer/academicsadmissions/be-environmental.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://thayer.dartmouth.edu/thayer/academicsadmissions/be-environmental.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I'd look up these course descriptions to see if they interest you.</p>

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<p>You are. Some of the classes are taught in the same building, some of the classes are the same, but there is only one undergraduate "school" at Dartmouth: Dartmouth College. Everything else is graduate. So don't think of Thayer as Columbia's FU School of Engineering (or whatever it's called) or something like that. It's not the same. You're still going to have to fulfill the same distribs, you're still going to be taking classes in different departments with random people majoring in English or something.</p>

<p>He is not mistaken. BE degree is given by Thayer. However, in order to complete BE, you must finish BA through Dartmouth first (or concurrently), unless you get BA from some other school that has exchange program with Thayer.</p>

<p>How would you compare the engineering education at Dartmouth to schools with full out Engineering programs (like Hopkins/Columbia/Duke etc)?</p>

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He is not mistaken. BE degree is given by Thayer. However, in order to complete BE, you must finish BA through Dartmouth first (or concurrently), unless you get BA from some other school that has exchange program with Thayer.

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<p>My point was that you're still taking classes through the College for the majority of your time.</p>

<p>Also, question... with APs could you get that BA in 3 years/BE in 4 years, and if I might go into business later, it shouldn't matter that I just have a BA, not a BE, right?</p>

<p>It's two seperate Bachelor's degrees. The A.B. (4 years) is awarded by the College and you take classes through the college most of the time. The B.E. (1 year) is awarded by Thayer. You have to apply to Thayer, and most of the classes are through Thayer.</p>

<p><a href="http://thayer.dartmouth.edu/thayer/academicsadmissions/be-electrical-analog.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://thayer.dartmouth.edu/thayer/academicsadmissions/be-electrical-analog.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>The combination A.B./B.E. degree has equivilant coursework to full out engineering programs, but the course selections and specialties are not as diverse. The neat thing about the program is its generality, and the opportunity it offers to study liberal arts. Full out programs usually limit liberal arts study to 6 or 8 electives.</p>