Everything You Want to Know About Hill (Pictures Included)

<p>Now that housing assignments are out, there seem to be a lot of people who are shocked, upset, and even terrified about the prospect of living in Hill. I do not blame you, I was in your shoes last year at this time. Practically every thread on this board has been somehow related to Hill, and people have asked questions about living there. I’m making this thread to consolidate information and give you as much information as I can in one post. If there are more questions, please feel free to ask.</p>

<p>Any ex-Hillies are welcome to answer questions that come up, but I do ask that if you answer someone’s question you at least lived in Hill for a year. I know that people who lived in the Quad had some limited exposure to Hill, but you can’t get the full Hill experience if you didn’t live there.</p>

<p>Finally, before you’ll find a link to my webshots at the bottom of this post. The link will take you to my album that shows my room in Hill. The captions for the photos there cover a lot of the basics about Hill rooms, so I encourage you to look at the photos and read the captions.</p>

<p>Now then… on with the show.</p>

<p>I. Hill College House
The building itself is over 40 years old, and was designed by a very famous architect. With all respect to this architect, the building of Hill is very ugly. It is a dark brown brick, laid unevenly to have some texture. The building is a large rectangle, with the main entrance on the side closest to the rest of campus. There are two types of windows that alternate by room. The first type is a wide rectangle, which has two openable windows on either end. The second type is a very tall but skinny rectangle, which is one piece and completely opens. The wide type is much better, as it lets in more light and gives you better climate-control options. There is no Air Conditioning. The building is surrounded by a spiky iron fence. Between the fence and the building is the “moat,” an inaccessible area that is just covered in low-lying vegetation. You will get to travel in the moat on your way out of the building everytime the annoying fire alarm goes off. To get into the building, you walk over the moat on a “drawbridge.” Legend has it that since the building was originally an all-female residence hall, the fence, moat, and drawbridge were designed to keep the men out.</p>

<p>II. Rooms
There are a few types of rooms. All Hill rooms are small, by far the smallest on campus. Most of the rooms are standard doubles. These rooms are for two people, and give you just enough space to live. Each side of the room has a large closet, in which you can store a lot of clothes and living supplies. If you use your space wisely, you can fit tons of stuff in the closet. After the closet are the beds. The beds are extra long twins. Under the beds are two dressers, which have two drawers each. You have about 5 inches of space on top of the dressers beneath the bed. Some people use this space, I only stored my N64 and controllers there. Behind the dressers you have between one and two feet before the wall, which I used to store large boxes and my suitcases. After the beds there is between two and three feet of space before the desks. This space is usually used for a lamp, shelves of some kind (yaffa blocks, milk crates, etc). In my room we had milkcrates and a TV on one side, and our refrigerator and microwave on the other side. We also fit a floor lamp on both sides. The rest of the space is for your desk. The desks have three large drawers, a small drawer (for a keyboard or papers), and two shelves for books. Most people put their printer on the lower shelf or under the desk in order to conserve space. This way you can have your computer on the desk and still have space to work at your desk if you want to. The rooms are small, but if you go into Hill thinking the rooms will be tiny, you will be pleasantly surprised with how much space you have to store things. Most people in my hall had been told time and time again that the rooms are tiny, so we expected the worst. Instead, during move-in, we found that we had plenty of space for things. See my pictures at the bottom to see what I’m talking about.</p>

<p>The two common types of single rooms are either small or large. The large rooms are the size of a double, but only have one person in them. There are not many of these, and some have a very wacky layout… such as those right in the middle of the sides of the rectangle. The small singles are found at the corners of the rectangle. These singles have huge closets when you first walk in, and then the standard desk, bed, and dressers. You have more options with this type of single. Some people take out their dressers and use them to put things on, other people leave them under the bed. It all depends on what you like. </p>

<p>GAs, UCBs, and House Managers have even larger singles scattered throughout the building.</p>

<p>III. GAs, UCBs, and House Managers
Each floor, shaped like a rectangle, is split up into “suites,” which are what are typically called “halls” in almost every other dorm in the country. Each suite has one Graduate Associate (GA… like your typical RA, only it will always be a grad student in Hill), one Upperclass Board member (UCB), and one House Manager. </p>

<p>GAs are the ones who look after everyone in the hall. They are responsible for keeping everyone in line, enforcing rules (quiet hours, no alcohol/illegal substances, etc), and organizing suite events (dinners, study breaks, etc). Most residents develop good relationships with their GAs because of the close bonds the suite will make throughout the year.</p>

<p>UCBs are upperclass students who… help run Hill, I guess. Hill is the only student-run college house on campus. Students control most aspects of the dorm, along with the House Dean and Faculty Master. I don’t really know what UCBs do, but our UCB last year was a very nice, quiet girl who was very fun to get to know. </p>

<p>Student Managers are upperclassmen who live in Hill and manage one of the parts of Hill House. As I said, Hill is student-run, so there are many work-study jobs available for students to take on in Hill. The Student Managers are the “bosses” in these various areas, and are reponsible for hiring students and keeping things running smoothly. </p>

<p>IV. Lounges/Common Spaces
Hill is a very social dorm, and when describing Hill the word “community” often comes up. This is because, in large part, of the common spaces in Hill. Hill has more common spaces than the rest of the college houses combined. There are usually 8 lounges per floor (less on the first two floors), four “interior” lounges that are found at the ends of the building, and four that are balcony lounges that overlook the atrium. Rumor has it that the architect made Hill rooms very small on purpose, in order to make students spend more time in the lounges where they would interact with each other and form stronger bonds. Whether or not this is true, that is exactly what happens. No one wants to spend long amounts of time in their rooms, so everyone is constantly out in the different lounges. It makes it very hard to get work done, but it does make you have lots of fun :)</p>

<p>The atrium is also a large common space. The center of it is cut out so that you can see down to the dining hall. It makes it very easy to look down below and see if your friends are eating, or how busy the dining hall is. It is also a good space to meet friends, take cell phone calls (probably the most common use of the atrium space as there are lots of benches and couches), or throw a football. In each corner there is a staircase leading up or down to the hallways. </p>

<p>On either end of the atrium up one floor are two large rooms. On one side is the Upper East Lounge, a social lounge that is rarely used. It has big leather couches and tables for doing work or reading. Movies are shown in the UEL every Thursday, and many other events are held up there as well. It stays open until 1 AM every night. On the other side is the Hill library, which has tables and cubicles to study on. This was my favorite place to study on campus, as it is always very quiet, you don’t have to walk anywhere to get there, and it is away from all distractions. It has a library-feel to it, despite not having any books. It is open 24 Hours, and gets very crowded around exam time. It also gets very warm in the fall, which is a negative (then again, the whole building is sweltering, so what’s the difference?)</p>

<p>The Underground, a floor below the dining hall, is also a common space. It has a big screen TV, pool tables, ping pong, darts, etc. It also has a mini-convenience store. The Underground is probably under-used, but it is nice to have when you want it.</p>

<p>To be continued on the next post…</p>

<p>V. The Dining Hall
Hill College House houses one of three dining halls on campus (the other two being 1920 commons and Kings Court/English). Hill is widely regarded as having the best food on campus. While I won't talk about dining in too much detail, I will just say that it is incredibly nice to be able to walk downstairs and eat in your pajamas on the weekend and during winter. It definitely beats trudging through snow and rain to get a meal. The Dining Hall is also a very big social center... I'd suggest always eating with friends... you'll ALWAYS know somebody eating at the same time as you. You'll also find that it's impossible to get a quick meal down in the dining hall (unless you're absolutely set on getting out of there quickly), as you'll sit and talk to so many people before you finally make an effort to leave.</p>

<p>VI. Bathrooms
I probably should have talked about this earlier, but I'm just remembering it now. There are 8 bathrooms per floor, 4 guys and 4 girls. The bathrooms are all along the long sides of the rectangle, which means if you live in the middle of one of the short sides (as I did) it is a short walk to the nearest bathroom.<br>
The number of students sharing a bathroom varies drastically depending on the configuration of suites and bathrooms. Each bathroom has 3 toilets, 3 sinks, and 2 shower stalls. The bathrooms are not the cleanest places in the world; Hill's age is very evident in the bathrooms (by the end of the year my bathroom's ceiling started to collapse... it was fixed though). Sandals/flip flops should always be used in the showers... although that's the same in any dorm where you share with others. It is very rare that you have to wait for a shower. Most people are pretty quick, so if both showers are in use you can always brush your teeth, shave, etc while you're waiting. If you are in a big hurry, you can always walk to the next nearest bathroom, which is just a short distance down the hall. I only had to do that twice all year though. </p>

<p>VII. The Franklin Shield
The Franklin Shield is an inter-suite competition that lasts throughout the year. The Franklin Shield itself is in a case just as you walk into Hill, and it is engraved each year with the suite who accrues the most points throughout the year from various contests (think Harry Potter House Cup... it's very similar). Points can be gained from weekly activities and weekly trivia contests. Activities range from volleyball tournaments to cross-dressing contests, from toy race-car driving to developing a mechanism that will keep an egg from breaking after throwing it off the 5th floor balcony (that was a fun one). </p>

<p>VIII. Social Life
You may have heard that if you aren't in the Quad your social life will be terrible freshman year. That is ridiculous, I assure you. Hill kids go out; Hill kids have fun. You will become very close with your suite, and you will find friends who have the same interests as you. You will know people who want to go out on the weekends, and if that's not your thing, you will also know people who like staying in or doing something other than partying on the weekends. The community feel that develops at Hill makes it possible to have an amazing time in Hill.</p>

<p>As for partying and stuff within the building... that varies very much. While you might get a GA who is somewhat lenient with drinking and such in the building, the person who really matters is the GA on duty. A different GA is on duty each night (especially weekends). Some GAs don't do much when they're on duty, and only go handle situations if they are called upon (by security, students, etc). Other GAs actively patrol the halls while they are on duty. If a GA sees you drinking, you will get in trouble. The severity of the consequences also varies based on the GA, and how cooperative you are with them. However, in most cases, if you are drinking quietly in your room and they have no reason to suspect you or anything, they won't go looking for you. Just don't be obvious.</p>

<p>Also, in another thread someone mentioned that they've heard there is beer pong at Hill. While this isn't an organized event or a regular event, it does happen. I personally never played, but I do know friends who played it every once in awhile (usually down on the first floor). I guess as long as you are smart about it and take pains not to get caught...</p>

<p>Two of my friends decided to start throwing parties each week in their Hill room toward the end of the year. Even though the alcohol was free flowing, the music was blasting, and there were around 25 people in the room, we never got caught. We might have just been lucky, I do not know. Some of my other friends tried throwing their own party a week after our last party, and they got caught within 10 minutes. Like I said, it pretty much varies on the GA and how obvious you are being.</p>

<p>IX. Conclusions
I really can't think of anything else to talk about at the moment, so I'll wrap it up. If you go into Hill with an open mind, you'll probably end up loving it. It has its downsides, to be sure, but it also has its upsides. People make Hill what it is, not the building. Sure, the Quad is beautiful, but does the Quad have such a tight-knit community feeling as Hill? Not a chance. </p>

<p>X. Pictures
Here is the link to my pictures of my room from last year. Enjoy!
<a href="http://community.webshots.com/album/356900670SQSXLW%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://community.webshots.com/album/356900670SQSXLW&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Wow! thanks! :)</p>

<p>I thought hill doubles had bunk beds?</p>

<p>Bunk beds are optional. You can get the pins to make the beds into bunkbeds, but you don't need to. Most people do not bunk their beds. It does give you a lot of space if you do bunk them, but you still have enough if you choose not to bunk them as well.</p>

<p>Thanks a bunch for the info</p>

<p>r u a phish fan</p>

<p>You bet I am :)</p>

<p>haha i am not one sorry to say but basically a whoel bunch of my closest friends are, and one of their sns is fluffhead____ so im like this guy definently got it from the song lol</p>

<p>Very nice, can we get one of these for the high rises?</p>

<p>jesus fluffhead, you have way too much time on your hands to write that long and detailed a post....;-)</p>

<p>I just got my room assignment, although my first choice was one of the quad, the entrenuership program, they put me in the hill, but it's single, so i think that's all good. One of my question is that i know there is a bed in every room, but does penn provides mattress also?
Thanks</p>

<p>fluffhead, thx so much for posting that tremendous info. Can u please explain more or give some links about Hill's floor plan, or can we tell where our room should locate from our room numbers?</p>

<p>Fluffhead pretty much summed everything up, but i'll add my two cents on those topics. :)</p>

<p>First off, here are some pictures from one of the first days of school. (note: a) I had a fishbowl room. That means it was a bit bigger (though not all fishbowl rooms are bigger.. i'm pretty certain I had the largest double room for freshman..) therefore, I was able to fit my dressers between my bed and dresser (most people can't.) B) these pictures were taken before I got a roomate (I originally had a double with just me.. it was awesome.. my roomate was amazing though when she finally moved in :) )
<a href="http://community.webshots.com/album/183611006oiIWkA%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://community.webshots.com/album/183611006oiIWkA&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>II. Rooms:
I completely agree with having plenty of room. The closets are absolutely amazinggg.. Closets in the Quad are about a hanger deep, Closets in Hill are practically walk in. You have two large shelves up top too which are great. I also suggest a 'second bar'. You can get them from linens and things, and it hangs a second bar off the bar already in your closet.. makes for a lottt more room. You also have plenty of room to store things behind the dressers under your bed, and if you get bed risers (definitely get them!) you can store more stuff on top of the dressers. If you get super lucky like me, take your dressers out from under the bed (they worked as a perfect TV stand!), and store a ton of stuff under the bed. </p>

<p>As for what you should bring, I would definitely bring a Microwave, fridge, and TV.. Laptops are certainly more popular than desktops because they give you more room on your desk. </p>

<p>Lounges: The lounges are truely amazing.. i'll try to get some pictures up later of the lounge I lived in. </p>

<p>Bathrooms: I had to wait for a shower twice during the entire year and it was only for about 5 minutes each time. </p>

<p>Franklin Shield.. don't know too much about it to be honest.. my suite kinda made a pact to get the lowest recorded franklin shield score ever.. we had around 40 at the end of the year (winners had like 500 something). I think we may have achieved our goal, lol</p>

<p>Social life is amazing: If you like to go out, you will certainly find people to go out with. You will have some of your fondest memories attempting to get down to the frats on 40th street, lol</p>

<p>As for partying in the dorm, it does really depend on the GA on duty. We had a bunch of parties all year (one had at least 20 people in my room) and no one ever said anything.. Towards the end of hte year we even had stuff pretty in the open and even drank a little in the common rooms because we knew our GA would never come by. The very last night however we did get caught by a GA on Duty, but he was cool and only made us pour everything out (we had our door WIDE open, with bottles on the desks..opss..). Basically, keep your door closed.</p>

<p>Beer pong is possible, we did play once.. we took the draws out from under the desks and there was a random window screen lying around that we used for a table.. it was a little ghetto, but it served it's purpose</p>

<p>My conclusion: Definitely go in with an open mind. you will meet some amazing people (most of which didn't want to be in Hill either..) and make some really good friendships. </p>

<p>one other tip: Utilize Pennster when it opens. Talk to people in your hall. Organize a meeting for people in your town/area (last year, about 15 of us met for dinner in NYC). THe more people you go to school knowing, the most connected you'll feel. From pennster I knew someone in my math class, someone in my physics class (who ended up being in my lab as well, and we were lab partners both semesters), and people in my computer science class. I had also talked to most people in my hall. Use pennster, ask the upperclassmen questions and just get to know the people you're going to be spending the next 4 years with! :)</p>

<p>Valecollegorian: There is no floor plan for hill.. And really no way to tell where your room is.. I can only give info on rooms 520-549ish.</p>

<p><a href="http://community.webshots.com/album/185048329VbTnYS%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://community.webshots.com/album/185048329VbTnYS&lt;/a>
That will also give you a semi-idea of what the inside common areas look like. . There's a long table, chairs, couches, fridge, and stove in each. And BTW, if you can't tell, I will be the one of to burn down hamilton next year (because we nearly burned down Hill making rice krispy's treats.) Also, those pictures were taken the first week, and I had already formed a really close bond with two people.. that's how awesome hill is :-D</p>

<p>thanks so much, y'all!!! :)</p>

<p>ok, this is kind of a strange question, but looking at the pics, i noticed a lot of ppl wearing shorts...is it really that warm in Philly? what times of the year is it possible to wear shorts?</p>

<p>LAgal, people around here wear shorts pretty much from May up until October. You're going to be surprised how humid it will be for those first couple weeks in September. :)</p>

<p>WHOA! mnasy, you are good friends with Claire?!?!?! I adore her... we met through a mutual friend of ours who lives in Baton Rouge (I live in WI but my family is good friends with his family) so we talked online all last summer and I was up on your floor every so often visiting her... craziness.</p>

<p>LAgal... Philly is pretty warm during the fall, and to some degree in the spring. If you are in Hill, you'll also definitely want to wear shorts in the fall, as the building is ridiculously warm. The spring is somewhat more unpredictable; we went from days in the 70s and 80s to days in the 50s and then back again. I'm pretty sure I wore shorts for about a week straight in early April (and many other days sporadically), but had to wear pants on move-out day.</p>

<p>In case anyone is wondering about useless trivia- the reason Hill looks like a castle (ugly building, gun turret windows, moat) is because it was originally the housing for the College for Women... hence, keeping men out was the prime directive. :)</p>

<p>Hill was actually meant to be four separate buildings but due to a lack of resources to construct each individually, it was amalgamated into one building. It's also across from what was one of the first building's for women, Bennett Hall (which is now Fisher-Bennett Hall) on the corner of 34th and Walnut. </p>

<p>=) Welcome Penn freshmen!</p>

<p>"I can only give info on rooms 520-549ish"</p>

<p>Ooo! I got room 520... how is it?</p>