<p>Point still stands, rankings do matter. It’s not just a higher % of offers, it is MORE OFFERS. Forgot to mention top ranked schools are there the associate advisory positions opportunities are and also national recruiting strength.</p>
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<p>taxguy doesn’t even consider people with weak GPAs to be human.</p>
<p>It’s pretty obvious at this point that taxguy is biased. He went to a no-name school and never worked for the Big Four. So he preaches that school ranking and firm size doesn’t matter. I’d venture to guess that he had a weak GPA too.</p>
<p>I’m not saying rankings don’t matter, but what I am saying is that any student from any descent school still has a shot. According to you, why do these firms even conduct interviews? They should just have an agreement to hire all the students at a few schools regardless of gpa or lack of experience.</p>
<p>Whistleblower, you could be right. And Dawgie, I understand the end with the national recruiting strength, but what does “are there the associate advisory positions opportunities are,” mean? Thanks…</p>
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<p>What is it that you aren’t getting? There are schools where 90% of students are getting offers and schools where <10% of students are getting offers. Why can’t you draw your own conclusions instead of challenging the premise?</p>
<p>For one, if they chose all their slaves from just a few schools, then the students at lower-end schools would stop majoring in accounting and major in engineering and look down on accountants (especially on the internet). Big firms would be viewed as elitists instead of their current line they tow which is basically “give me your tired, your poor, your strong GPAs…”. They hire just enough hicks, handsome men who got Cs in intermediate, lacrosse players, and extremely studious girls from mediocre state schools to quench proletarian angst.</p>
<p>Half of your post really is funny. But its crazy how you are saying to make my own conclusions when you are just accepting that rankings are everything. </p>
<p>I graduated in Texas and in the top 10% of my high school class so I could very easily be at UT Business. Only, I had no clue what I wanted to do at the time. So to say the least, if I wanted to be apart of the 90% at a top program or the one of two guys at a tier 3 school, it wouldn’t matter to me. I could be either one. I think of it as students get offers not schools.</p>
<p>Advisory positions > Audit/Tax positions.</p>
<p>WB and dawgie can be a bit too cynical sometimes, but they are 100% correct in this case. The school you attend has a dramatic effect on your chances of obtaining highly sought after positions post-graduation. I don’t think that it’s an exaggeration to say that smart kids from UT and BYU have over a 90% chance of gettting the gigs they want vs. less than 10% for somebody from a no-name school.</p>
<p>I think we are getting our wires crossed on what we consider no name schools. I mean I would only consider going to tier 1 schools. Out of high school, I was accepted to UT, TAMU (going here), Baylor, TCU and SMU. If I excel at any of these schools, I could work at the Big 4. I do think that UT, especially, and Tamu are target schools in Texas. The others are still okay. If you all think I’m talking about UT-Arlington and TAMU-Kingsville than I get what you are saying. I mean be reasonable.</p>
<p>Yea Derek, when I say no-name I mean more along the lines of Texas State, Sam Houston, SFA, and the likes. You’re right, you would have a chance if you excel at Baylor, SMU, or TCU. However, going to UT, closely followed by TAMU would net you a better overall chance because of the heavy recruiting.</p>
<p>Hey Derek, off topic here, but what do you think about Southwestern University in Georgetown? My only beef with UT is that I’m afraid I won’t get to know any of my professors well enough to get good recommendations or job referals from them. Do you know anything about Southwestern’s rep?</p>
<p>Add UH to that list with Baylor/UT/SMU/etc…</p>
<p>When taxguy says decent schools, i dont think hes referring to schools like SFA/SH. I think he’s referring to schools like SMU/UH/Baylor/Tech/ , schools with decent/good business schools in general. If your colleges business school has its own job center you should be set.</p>
<p>I also agree with Taxguy’s statement. Probably, people just do not understand the way he explain his point of view, so I will try to simplify it. Basically, Taxguy wanted to say that the name of a school matters, only if you plan to go to another state. For instance, if you have graduated from UT Austin and came to New York, people on Wall Street will know the school that you came from, and they might give you a chance. However, if you came from an unknown school, then employers would rather hire students from local schools. Another advantage that the name of a school offers is the amount of offers that your schools get from top firms. But it does not mean that every single person, even with GPA 2.5, will be hired. If you got into the University of Pen., and graduated with 2.2 GPA, no internships, no activities–then no one will llook at you. Remember, if your school does not get the same amount of offers, it does not mean that you are doomed to fail. If recruiters do not come to your school–then YOU CAN GO DIRECTLY TO THEM, and ask if they need qualified workers. No one will say no to you, if they see your perfect GPA/resume and your personality. Here is my quote: “The name of a school does not make you smarter, or even handsome; yet, it certainly helps you in some ways.”</p>
<p>Great advice on this board. I enjoy reading what the devil’s advocates, the supporters of Big 4, and accounting lovers have to say.</p>
<p>I was wondering if anyone here filed an online profile talent for PricewaterhouseCoopers in the past. What kind of information did you have to put up? </p>
<p>If you add your resume, can you modify it later?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>@Toshtemirov</p>
<p>Good explanation…</p>
<p>Guys, people who want to work at the big 4, watch these videos:</p>
<p>[pwc</a> tv CH2 - The Firm: Seasons One and Two](<a href=“http://www.pwc.com/us/en/careers/pwctv/ch2-the-firm-seasons-1-and-2.jhtml#]pwc”>http://www.pwc.com/us/en/careers/pwctv/ch2-the-firm-seasons-1-and-2.jhtml#)</p>
<p>^ Season 1 > Season 2</p>
<p>^Agreed. The first season is more entertaining, and more informative, and I liked Amy :). I also like the phrase, “He is just a partner–he is not an alien” :). Can’t wait to get into PwC. I prefer PwC to other big 4 companies.</p>
<p>You ignorant and inexperienced accounting gurus going to just completely ignore the fact I mentioned the superior positions are typically only recruited from the top ranked programs? Advisory…</p>
<p>By Dawgie, "You ignorant and inexperienced accounting gurus going to just completely ignore the fact I mentioned the superior positions are typically only recruited from the top ranked programs? Advisory… "</p>
<p>Yes we will. Dawgie, you sound like you are managing all the major accounting companies in the world. If you mantioned something, it does not mean that it is 100% true, even if you want it to be. You have to learn how to deal with people who have different opinions, without showing anger, but instead, try to persuade us, “ignorants.” Didn’t you learn that in college? Now, I will try to make your statement clear:</p>
<p>You ignorant and inexperienced accounting gurus going to just completely ignore the fact I mentioned–here, you sound like you are a king of the world–
the superior positions are typically ONLY( Sorry I didn’t know that) recruited from the top ranked programs? Advisory…</p>