<p>I asked at a couple of places, but didn’t receive answer at all, so I hope someone could help me here.
I know Brown is not need-blind for International students and it matters whether or not you apply for FA. But, there’s one thing I don’t understand. What about EDers? I have a couple of friends, seniors, who applied ED to Ivies, but when they got accepted, they had to wait an additional week to find out whether they would be given the amount of FA they had asked for or not. This made me think that when they submitted their application, they said how much money they needed and eventually, they got accepted, but just later got their FA packet. So I need to know, is the procedure different for EDers? I’ll be applying not this fall, but the next one, I have already started working on my ECs and standardized tests and I believe I have a chance if I apply ED because it’s my dream school, besides, my country is underrepresented at Brown. However, of course, there’s the problem with money and it is that my parents can’t afford more than 10% of the fee. I’m afraid this will be the main reason I will get rejected, but yet, there’s this thing with the seniors I mentioned above that still keeps me hoping there is a way that I won’t be deferred/rejected ED because of money. So, is it, as I think, different for EDers, first acceptance, and then announcing whether or not Brown will pay what you requested for, or is it the same as the process with RDers? I am totally freaking out…</p>
<p>I think if you’re international (not an american-citizen or green-card holding) you say how much FA you need. They then either accept you with that FA, or don’t, and the more you ask for the more difficult it is to be accepted, because we’re need-aware for internationals. However, I know internationals on aid, and if it’ll increase our diversity you’ve still got a decent chance, even applying for aid, but it’s far from a sure thing. However, I believe, even for international EDers, you’ll get the amount of aid you ask for if you’re accepted, in general (there may be some fringe cases, but that’s my understanding of it).</p>
<p>One of the reasons you could opt-out of an ED contract is if you weren’t given enough aid to attend, as schools don’t want kids coming for a year, then dropping out because they can’t afford it anymore. Therefore, it makes no sense at all for Brown to offer an international an ED admission and not meet the aid they ask for.</p>
<p>Yeah, I see. The problem is, I don’t want to bail out of an ED contract (if, hopefully get in), quite the contrary, I want to be, if not sure, then calm enough that my demand for financial aid will not screw up my chances for admission. Does somebody else know any other way? Can I, for example, not fill anything on the application where they ask me about financial aid, and later, if I get accepted, I start “negotiating” for FA? I guess, here someone would say, “no, because if they don’t give you enough FA, and you bail out, you have taken somebody else’s chance to get in”, but believe it’s not like this. If I do get accepted, and I’m not given the money I need, I will go around every bank in my country, begging them to give me a loan, that I’ll be paying back my whole life, or I will make my parents sell the house, or I will sell one of my kidneys. I swear, I will find a way to pay whatever it takes me, but I just cannot face the idea of not being accepted because of money… This is the only thing in my application that doesn’t depend on me. So, to be 150% sure, in two words, am I screwed?</p>
<p>Well, if you do not list your status regarding FA on your application, then they might exclude you in the budget they create. So your FA might go to the person ‘below’ you on the acceptance list. (Thats if they work out their FA like that, I don’t know how they do it). But I know a guy from CC who was accepted to Cornell, and then the next day they told him they cannot give him FA 
so he can’t go to Cornell if he can’t get any FA.</p>
<p>If you don’t apply for financial aid when you submit your original application, you cannot apply for financial aid for your freshman year (if you were a US citizen, you could apply for unsubsidized Stafford Loans, but that’s not going to help you.)</p>
<p>And financial aid doesn’t work the way you think. You don’t “say how much money you need” and get it. You fill out lengthy and complicated forms and the school determines your need (which many times is much less than what parents think they can pay.)</p>
<p>No matter how much Brown is your dream school, you should not go into extreme debt for it, and you certainly shouldn’t sell body parts. Honestly, Brown is not worth it (NO college is worth it). And who would give you thousands of dollars of loans – you have no income, you would only qualify for loans if your parents cosign.</p>