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<p>Didn't you ever see Forest Gump? If there is any connection to the school in the material, it is grounds for expulsion.</p>
<p>First of all, who the hell is S?</p>
<p>"S" equals parent-talk for "son." I guess those two extra letters were too much to type.</p>
<p>No surprise on my end... I always watch what goes on Facebook.</p>
<p>And I laugh at the people in my school that put pictures of them hanging upside down drinking from a beer keg. I love it =)</p>
<p>"Laws are based upon morality..."</p>
<p>In an ideal world, yes. But this one?</p>
<p>hops_scout - you want alcohol banned for everyone? why? because you don't like something, everyone should suffer? </p>
<p>Wait, so administrators browse Facebook and look at pics of students? what college is this? One advantage of going to a huge school is there's too many students for this to be reasonable...
this is why Facebook has a "friends only" or private setting. I feel bad for the kids, but try setting your facebook to private!</p>
<p>I wish they would lower the drinking age to 18 - it seems kinda silly the govt can tell you what you can and can't drink as an adult. I haven't heard of any where it's over 18, except for the U.S and canada (I think it's like 19 in Canada?) But I guess it's partly since due to our culture...in countries where there's no drinking age, like france, teens are taught how to drink from an early age, and it's not a "rebellious" thing to do...of course college kids get wasted everywhere, but I don't think to this extent.</p>
<p>First of all, I think someone had to tip off college administrators. Maybe someone had a grudge against this particular fraternity. Secondly, underage drinking is illegal, despite what you may think of the law. Thirdly, and the main reason for my post, is for everyone to think before posting certain pictures on your Facebook. Go through and clean it up on a regular basis. Keep the setting on private. You don't need to display your life to everyone.</p>
<p>"An unjust law is no law at all."</p>
<p>~St. Augustine</p>
<p>The whole facebook crackdown is pointless. It doesn't stop anyone from doing anything, except from posting the pictures. Kids are still going to drink and party and all the other stuff, and they're still going to take pictures, they're just going to not post them or as i've seen a lot, they're going to blur out the labels on the bottles so the school can't prove anything and can't suspend them.</p>
<p>kids are smart, they're always going to find a way around these crackdowns...</p>
<p>"First of all, who the hell is S?" </p>
<p>Haha, not laughing at you. I didn't get it until a few months ago myself. It's just funny how you said it.</p>
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You can quote all the philosophers you want, but it doesn't exactly apply to our society.</p>
<p>I believe that laws against homicide are unjust. Therefore, I will disregard them and do it anyway, since it might as well be "no law at all".</p>
<p>That's not true, but you can see how personal opinion plays a big role.</p>
<p>There are a number of stupid, unjust, or annoying laws. But there is a right way to go about it; ignoring it or saying "it's not valid because I don't believe it's just" is not the right way. There is a proper, due process for debating and changing laws that are not just. These include petitioning your local lawmakers or taking it to appellate/supreme courts (or supporting lobbies that do this on your behalf).</p>
<p>Law is not based upon morality. It's simply a tool for the majority (or sometimes not) to assure mutual protection and mutual individual liberty for the people. This may be simplified; obviously, there are libraries of books debating the philosophy of law.</p>
<p>But the law is at least not the same as morality. Because we all share different ideas of what morality is and what is considered moral. And people debate whether people should be forced to act morally.</p>
<p>Most people in this country identify themselves as Christians. But premarital sex is not illegal. Not believing in God is not illegal. Lying (other than perjuring yourself in court), being an a-hole, being unfair, ignoring the poor, cheating on someone - these are all not illegal or against the law, though many people may traditionally find them immoral.</p>
<p>But yeah - the drinking laws here suck. Thankfully, I will be 21 soon, haha.</p>
<p>Edit: Goldshadow, sometimes due process will not work in changing an "unjust" law. Imagine if a King had the legal precedent and authority to run this country. He could pass all sorts of unjust laws that you would have to legally follow. Imagine if blacks chose to follow due process during the Civil Rights Movement - it wouldn't work.</p>
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<p>Following this maxim, if you think something is just, then you would do it regardless of law. As a rational person, if you think something is truly unjust, then you wouldn't do it, again regardless of law. So why have laws?</p>
<p>Situation could have easily been avoided if their facebooks were set to "private". Then, assuming one of their friends didn't turn on them, the university officials would have had no way to see any compromising pictures.</p>
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<p>Because there are a large number of stupid people in the world.</p>
<p>Ha. If that happened at my school, 1/2 of the students would be in similar circumstances</p>
<p>I don't see how a law banning underage drinking is immoral. I've tried a bit of alcohol and have found it extremely bitter and boring.</p>
<p>"Laws are based upon morality."</p>
<p>Laws are put into place by legislators to appeal to voters so that the legislators can more easily get reelected. You would probably not believe the number of stupid bills that get filed every year in every state towards this purpose.</p>
<p>In European countries where you can drink as early as 16, most of the time you can't drive till you're 18.</p>
<p>Re: Georgia- That is probably a better system than what we have. </p>
<p>The only reason there are laws in all US states to forbid drinking until 21 is because the federal government threatened to withhold funding for highways and other infrastructure in the states which didn't comply. I think it's quite ridiculous that sometimes they will ask people who are OBVIOUSLY not young for ID. They have asked my mom, who is 55, for ID before. For them even to ask some of my friends who are 25ish is silly.</p>