Your talking about pulse vs doe which was decided by the Supreme Court that it violated the equal protection clause from accepting undocumented students but it has nothing to do with Garrenteeing anyone with anything federal law does not prohibit undocumented students from attending college and federal law does not have to garenttee noncitizens from going colleges are state run this would have to be a resident or nonresident type of issue
Not all financial aid comes from the federal government. Some comers from the states, for public institutions, and private institutions have their own. State money, coming from state tax payers, is controlled by the state governments. That is why many have instate tuition prices that are lower that out of state prices. Tax payers in a state do not want to underwrite the cost of educating students from elsewhere.
As someone else pointed out, the constitution pertains to elementary and secondary education. Post secondary education is not a right, it is a privilege. You are expecting someone to foot the bill for your privilege. On the other hand, if you showed up at a college with a suitcase of $100 bills totaling the cost of 4 years worth of tuition, room, and board, I am sure you could find a school to admit you.
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You are incorrect. Feds determine eligibility for FEDERAL financial aid (and you are not eligible) and other aid is under the control of the source of the aid - state aid by the state, private aid by the private provider. Some states require the student to file a FAFSA to receive state aid, and that would automatically exclude non-citizens (or most of them). Some have their own forms for application to allow those non-citizens to get state funds. Florida used to require FAFSA for Bright Futures but got rid of that requirement about 10 years ago, so a Florida high school grad who isn’t a citizen can get those STATE funds but no federal funds.
You can argue with us all you want, but we don’t have the money you are looking for. If you think you are entitled to it under this federal statute, go apply and find it. If you want to sue the state of Georgia to get aid you feel you are entitled to, go for it.
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You are talking about Plyler vs Doe. The application of that decision has been limited to K-12 schooling. It has nothing to do with college.
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Yeah it was decided that it was unconstitutional were are you getting at?
You wrote this in February:
“ I what I did is that I applied to Georgia tech on the common app I put that I do not have a non immigrant visa and they classified me as a international student on the college application. But I haven’t gotten accepted yet”
So…did you get accepted to some college? Did you get sufficient financial aid to attend?
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That it has absolutely NOTHING to do with getting financial aid for college.
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Come back and let us know if you get accepted to a Georgia school and if you get federal financial aid.
You are arguing for Federal and Constitutional financial equality and misinterpreting/convoluting the US Constitution and have NO IDEA, nor CLUE, that Federal Funding with the FAFSA application is chump change. NADA.
Federal funding is minimal. If by some fluke, you got through with a drivers license number and faked the system (FRAUD & DEPORTATION), did you know that Pell grants, at the most are $6K per year for new entering freshman?
What US university or college, do you know of that only costs $6K per year to attend with tuition, room and board, books, medical insurance, transportation and daily expenses?
The big money comes from the states and the colleges. Federal funding will not pay the bills. It’s moot for you because you don’t qualify for any funding nor admission anywhere without proof of citizenship.
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And you can keep arguing that you are right, but like Aunt Bea says, it won’t be enough.
There are schools that might work for you but Georgia Tech isn’t one of them. Someone might be able to help you if you are willing to accept that you don’t have the same choices for college as a Kennedy or Rockefeller child would have, but neither did my kids. They went where we could afford The could WANT to go to Georgia Tech or Harvard or Stanford, but they couldn’t. Period.
Some states have community colleges that are free for their residents (all residents) and you should find one of those, move, become a state resident, and then go to one of those. After you do that, maybe your status will change, or you could win a private scholarship, or you could save enough money to pay for it yourself. If you file for DACA, you’d get a SSN and could get employment and maybe your employer would pay for some of your tuition. Even with DACA, you still wouldn’t get federal aid.
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There is no way to do an end-run on the FAFSA eligibility checks. All you’ll accomplish by doing a paper FAFSA is delay the inevitable rejection, since it takes a really long time for the paper FAFSA to be processed. The end result will be the same … you won’t be deemed eligible for federal aid.
If you were assigned international student status based on your responses to questions, that will eventually change. International students are required to get a proper student visa. If you are ineligible for a student visa, which your situation as presented to us indicates you are, you will not be considered international when all is said and done.
I understand that this is upsetting to you, but it is what it is. Please read the advice people have given to try to help you refocus your efforts on paths that could possibly work for your situation.
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Actually, in the situation presented as is, this student would not likely be able to get a visa to study here. But he would still be considered an international student…he isn’t a citizen or permanent resident.
This student applied to colleges to start this fall term which is very soon in GA and SC which are states he mentioned in his previous threads.
So…what happened? Did he gain admission? Get sufficient aid? Get a student visa? Able to complete the certification of finances?
What happened?? Colleges are starting in the south very very soon.
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I have a feeling that the OP is trying to get Federal Financial Aid because GA Tech says that getting Federal Aid proves Lawful Presence.
The OP is an undocumented person. He is not eligible for federally funded aid. He cannot complete the FAFSA.
Plus, he is considered an international student…would need to complete a certificate of finances, and get a student visa. How would that happen!
Georgia Tech:
Orientation is on August 16th.
First day of Classes @ Georgia Tech is on August 23rd.
Cost of attendance is $29K for residents; $50K for non-residents.
Which one did you get admitted under???
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So, getting Federal aid of $6K per year is going to help defray a full year of costs at $30K instate fees or 50K out of state?
No, but if the OP has a Lawful Presence hold, he can’t register even it they have the money. The tactic of going the Federal Aid route will not work.
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Agree @Eeyore123
He risks deporting his whole family.
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OP has not answered.
I guess the truth hurts.