<p>Just bringing up topic of discussion, how fair do you think it is that the new SAT's easily favor the english/history side of the brain by having 2/3 of the test devoted to it, whereas basically a math/science person gets screwed over.</p>
<p>That is a very good observation. I am one of the many who are at this disadvantage.</p>
<p>My heart bleeds. If you want a test that pays lip service to both math and science, take the ACT. It's half of the test, along with reading and english.</p>
<p>Being able to read and interpret is an elementary skill; everyone should be able to do it.</p>
<p>Being able to speak and understand the English language is essential to understanding what you're reading.</p>
<p>A grasp of history is necessary for a scientist so they don't research the same thing over and over again.</p>
<p>Being able to read and interpret english is essential to studying science in the United States,</p>
<p>Math, I'll admit, doesn't require much beyond the ability to catch onto things. But you'll need English/Writing/Reading skills on EVERYTHING else, so it makes sense that these things are more important.</p>
<p>PS: Both math/science and english/history are handled on the left side of the brain. Only with algebra (or MAYBE calculus) could the right-brain argument be made, as they are more abstract.</p>
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That's the funniest thing I have ever heard. Haha, "I've invented the vaccine for polio! Wait...what?"</p>
<p>I'm pretty sure the SAT favors English over Math, and I think the ACT math is horrible because it's so basic and really doesn't involve any thinking, ihmo.</p>
<p>Writing isn't counted equally. Most top colleges aren't even considening it yet.</p>
<p>now that you bring it up when will colleges start taking the writing section into account for admissions? i hope they aren't gonna start with next years class of seniors... i got 730 reading, 650 math, 620 writing first time i took SAT so hopefully colleges wont look at my writing score</p>
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<p>lmfao, mad props.</p>
<p>"I have finally derived an equation for velocity . . . what? D'oh!"</p>
<p>It depends on how much the colleges approve of the writing section, the class of 2011 will also be able to escape some of the effects of the writing section because colleges at the point will only have a weak grasp of what they should expect from their students, but come class of 2012, they're pretty much going to have to be competitive in all three tests. Also, if you read this year's Princeton Review's Top 361 Colleges, they include the writing section under the selectivity column, which shows that colleges are starting to consider it more.</p>
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<p>Boohoo, poor Brown, the ACT math is "so basic" he'll get a high score! Oh, woe is he/she/it(wouldn't want to offend someone! OH NOES)!</p>
<p>It's just funny because people who I score in the 600's in SAT math get 36's at my school. So yeah...</p>
<p>Wow, Brown, you have my sincerest respect.</p>
<p>You're the first person who didn't freak out in response to my sarcasm.</p>
<p>Props.</p>
<p>The reason for this emphasis is DISGUSTINGLY politically correct and quite unfair. For as long as the SAT existed, males outscore females by a wider margin in the math section than females outscored males in the verbal section. The feminists and there politically correct government allies (led by the University of California system and the Nancy Polosi wing of the Democratic party) decided that this was defacto dicrimination against females.... and that males were given an unfair advantage in college admissions. The UC system threatened to stop using the SAT, which would have cost ETS millions of $. The Pelosi wing of the Democratic party threatened other measures if the ETS did not revamp the test in favor of females. Thus we have the charade that now exists.</p>
<p>From what my teacher told me last year when I was senior, that most colleges don't want to see ACT's, because it's known for being considerably easier than the SAT's.</p>
<p>Well I never learned official grammar in elementary school since I was placed in advanced classes...so that addition sucked for me.</p>
<p>Oh, and also...apparently people who do well with the writing section, it's been found, tend to do better in the math section....uhh, so yeah</p>
<p>yeah, but i bet it's not the other way around 8P</p>
<p>and where's your evidence or is this just hearsay and/or your speculations on the issue</p>
<p>Its true what the OP says
"whereas basically a math/science person gets screwed over."</p>
<p>The math is wonderful 6th grade stuff and anyone can do it.. wherweas the verbal/writing is above average spoken level...</p>
<p>Effectively, the math is SO underpar that 700+ is daMBN EASY, but Verbal is evilly tough</p>
<p>No, the ACT isn't "known" for being considerably easier than the SAT. The conversion chart was based on a study of kids taking both tests. Some do better on one, some on the other, while others do the same on the two -- posts I've seen on CC confirm that. Folks find the SAT has trickier questions, but the time demands of the ACT are worse.</p>
<p>If colleges "don't want to see" the ACT, they will say so. A number used to -- there is no legal impediment to doing so. They stopped (with a few exceptions like Wake Forest and Harvey Mudd), so I see no reason not to take them at their word.</p>
<p>On the ACT forum, a number of people have posted the top schools they got into using that test. (For instance, my daughter got into Brown, Chicago and UNC-CH [OOS].) It doesn't seem to make any sense not to go with the test where you get the best score, unless you happen to have your heart set on one of the few places that only wants one or the other test.</p>