Fall Bio Class is already full ?

<p>I am still trying to get a handle on registration etc but I saw this for BSCI 110A (Instructor James Patton ) on YES</p>

<p>Class Capacity: 180
Total Enrolled: 183
Available Seats: -3
Wait List Capacity: 30
Total on Wait List: 29</p>

<p>How could this be ?</p>

<p>Everyone has already enrolled in courses except for the incoming first-years. There are two other biology courses still open.</p>

<p>Thank you @pancaked. I wish I can give you some kind of medal. You are right here answering all our questions and clearing all our doubts. I appreciate it VERY much. </p>

<p>I am guessing Patton/Graham is the preferred teacher for BSCI 110a as opposed to Singleton and Broadie/Zweibel ?</p>

<p>Any comments on the schedule ( for a music loving possible Neuroscience major on a premed track ) and teacher preferences below ?</p>

<p>CHEM 102a - MWF 08:10 am - 09:00 am - Stevenson Center 4309 - Todd
MATH 155a - MWF 09:10 am - 10:00 am - Stevenson Center 1308 - Staff (?)
CHEM 102a(Discussion) - W 10:10 am - 11:00 am - Stevenson Center 5206 - Todd
BSCI 110a - MWF 11:10 am - 12:00 pm - Stevenson Center 4327 - Broadie/Zwiebel
Orchestra Ensemble - MWF 3:20 pm - 04:45 pm Blair School of Music
MUSL 115F - TR 09:25 am - 10:50 am - West Hall 102 - Barz
MATH 155(Discussion) - T 11:10 am - 12:00 pm - Stevenson Center 1214 - Staff(?)
BSCI 111a (lab) - T 01:10 pm - 04:00 pm - Stevenson Center 2122 - Baskauf
CHEM 104a (lab) - R 01:10 pm - 04:00 pm - Stevenson Center 5203 - Philips</p>

<p>Comes to 15 hours Plus Orchestra ensemble classes Plus one hour per week Violin private class. Doable ? </p>

<p>lovingasiandad;</p>

<p>Most Vanderbilt professors are going to be listed in ratemyprofessor.com. My D has found the comments on each professor to be useful in determining best professors to take–if its possible. As a first semester freshman, it is possible that the student will not get the ideal schedule, and will know that as they get older, they are able to pick and choose more frequently. </p>

<p>A word about wait lists…there is nothing wrong with sitting on a wait list to see if you get a preferred professor. Things on wait lists move around a lot in the summer, and especially the first week of school. When you register, register for what the student can definitely take (such as the schedule above) but then waitlist classes that the student really wants and see what happens. </p>

<p>The schedule as mapped out above is a challenging one for a freshman. Keep in mind that the student will also need a writing seminar as a freshman, and will be required to meet with their VUceptor group once weekly until Thanksgiving for an hour or so.</p>

<p>Most pre-meds do not attempt Calc, Chem and Bio together, it can be quite rigorous. The student may need foreign language, English, Ethics, for AXLE credit that could round out the first semester.</p>

<p>Interesting. She is not taking any of her AP credits for BCPM and hence this schedule. MUSL 115F Is actually a FYWS. She is getting 15 AP credits or so for AXLE. The schedule I have above is one of the sample course schedules in the Chemistry dept handbook ( except the ensemble and MUSL 115F)
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<p>Students can access official course evaluations at <a href=“http://www.sds.vanderbilt.edu/perl/voiceview.pl”>http://www.sds.vanderbilt.edu/perl/voiceview.pl&lt;/a&gt; . Student comments are not included, but it can be used to compare professors numerically (difficulty, clarity, grading standards, etc). Ratemyprofessors is great but not enough students make reviews there, leaving it susceptible to response bias, so take both overly negative and positive reviews with a grain of salt.</p>

<p>Keep in mind that AP credits can be used to advance you forward within your major but cannot be used to fulfill AXLE requirements.</p>

<p>Oh, and “Staff” means the professor has not yet been determined. Kinda rolling the dice</p>

<p>Going off of @vandyswim – Chem-calc-bio is not terribly unusual for STEM majors and pre-meds, but it’s a very challenging combination. All three at once can be very stressful and the grades can be demoralizing. It’s common for Bio to be taken sophomore or even junior year, which is why most of the bio classes are nearly full even though the freshman have not enrolled. </p>

<p>Fall for freshman is a time of adjustment as students pack their bags and leave home to start their life in a dorm room with a stranger. They miss family and friends and are far from their support group. They are making new friends, adjusting to the rigor of college and for the first time they are not the smartest kid in the class. They also must learn to handle their new freedom and the challenges that come with this freedom.</p>

<p>IMHO it seems risky to start college with calc/chem/bio triad of weed out classes. This combo can destroy ones medical school dreams before Thanksgiving. The new MCAT will add psy, biochem, and sociology. Why not start off with sociolgy, psychology, and chem. and/or a writing seminar to give yourself time to adjust to college and start off with a solid GPA before taking the “weed out” classes? Talk to your advisor to see if you can AP out of calc. (one less weed out class) and take a more “physician relevant” stats class? </p>

<p>Too many freshman bite off more than they can handle while adjusting to college. Freshman fall semester is the time of greatest risk for pre-meds. Lovingaslandad you are wise to come up with a plan that will maximize the chances of success.</p>

<p>sometimes freshman follies, a family crisis or loss, personal issues, illnesses (illness does happen!) or just being overcommitted (our son seemed to be majoring in attending every cultural arts event every evening)…can result in a Do-over. Vanderbilt allows (only with Dean sign off and conferring/collaborating with your advisor) you to post your less than scintillating grade earned on your record at the end of term…but to take a class over again. The grade you earn the second round is what goes into your GPA but Vandy will not hide the Do-over. It is on your transcript. I don’t think med schools discriminate re students who have to Do-over. They don’t want drones. They realize premeds are people with many life interests and personal growth going on.</p>

<p>I like to think that this very humane privilege put students on stronger ground for their graduate school and employment dreams…ie our son was on a traveling team which decimated his weekends, and didn’t realize he could not ace a test by studying from 1am till 4am if he decided to spend the evening at a campus event. He dropped a class, was therefore underloading (and on academic probation), and went to summer school for a term. Just a heads up that for private pay families…summer school will take at least 6 grand out of your pockets. Ouch… Even so, summer terms can be used strategically for students who are premed, double majors, planning to head overseas for a long time and need to get something done, or for students who dropped a course as our son did. The money hurt us because the summer semester was really done to compensate for less than stellar judgment re study hours.<br>
On the other hand, I know students from Duke who did Physics in their hometown colleges if deemed acceptable by Duke…Dukie son’s roommate took Physics at Northwestern over a summer term–now at Duke Med in a residency. I know a Wake Forest grad who did Biology at Virginia Tech one summer–now at Chicago in a residency. Summers can be used not only for employment or internships but for academic deliberate thinking and planning. Getting to know your work style, and your pace and limits is a very individual matter and part of the college learning curve. All these Vandy kids are stellar students capable of knocking the work out when they are in good condition. But you don’t want to spend money/time on a Do-over if you can get it done right the first time. </p>

<p>Does anybody know when freshmen can register for classes? For some reason I’ve been unable to find it.</p>

<p>I think it’s July 23. You can add classes to your shopping cart, but can’t enroll until then</p>

<p>You should be able to see your registration date in YES. Information about enrollment should be coming this month or in early June.</p>

<p>Last year Freshman enrollment was in early June.</p>

<p>Ahh yes thanks, for some reason I completely ignored the the enrollment dates on the right of YES. Enrollment does begin on the 23rd of July</p>

<p>If you take the AP credit for Calculus BC looks like you get credit for MATH 155a and 155b ( will satisfy neuroscience major requirement) but since being a premed HPAO recommends MATH 127a or MATH 127b or MATH 218. Any recommendation on those 3 ? I think most med schools should be okay with just doing 1 semester of Math ( Statistics). Any premeds who can comment ?</p>

<p>Without a doubt, take the AP credit for Math 155a and 155b. Those classes are very hard. </p>