Fell For The Fit Trap | HYPSM is a real thing I guess

@asfdve hmmm, there is something about your post that seems really familiar. Have you posted here before? :thinking:

In any event, you will be ok. Brown & Dartmouth both have extensive alumni networks despite the “over-representation” of HYPSM at the places that you listed. Also, alumni connections only get you so far. It’s a small piece of the puzzle. The rest is on you.

Once you get to school, do well. Impress your professors. Start looking for a summer internship. Use your school’s alumni network if needed.

Understand that once you’re in the door, you still have to have what it takes. This is true for everyone, even HYPSM students. You will have to prove yourself in school and in your internships in order to be hired afterwards, regardless of which Ivy League school you attend.

A proven track record and strong references will open the right doors. Time to re-focus.

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So sorry you are going through this OP.

Brian Moynihan (Brown) and Hank Paulson (Dartmouth) both had the same concerns before assuming their roles as CEO of Bank of America and Goldman Sachs. Thankfully they were able to overcome the tremendous hardship and setbacks of attending a lesser Ivy.

Look on the bright say you are clearly better positioned than a Tufts grad like Jamie Dimon the CEO of JP Morgan.

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Any school is bound to have hyper-successful alums but looking at the aggregate data, it does seem like HYPSM has significantly more people at top-tier firms than any other grouping of schools.

Agreed your doomed. Two words


Gap year!!

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Just stop with the shoulda coulda woulda and appreciate what you have. You might not have gotten in to HYPSM and you might not have even gotten in to your “lesser Ivy” without ED. You made a calculated decision to apply ED to a school that had the right environment to help you thrive. Stop second guessing yourself. You are going to a great school. Make the most of that opportunity and you will be successful.

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There you go. If your Ivy allows it, ask to defer enrollment for a year. Or just take a gap year and re-apply to other colleges.

BUT keep in mind
you may have gotten accepted at your Ivy because you played your ED card well. There is NO guarantee you would ever be accepted at HYPSM where the acceptance rates are in the very low single digits.

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Truly, someone else who was deferred would be thrilled with the opportunity for that spot.

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Without reading the rest of the responses, you are acting like 5 schools tower above society. And your Ivy is batched with thousands of others.

That’s ridiculous. Whether it’s Dartmouth or Denver, be proud.

99.9% of people will kill to be in at Brown or Dartmouth.

In the end, whether Harvard, Dartmouth or Montana State, you and not the school will matter. We just hired a guy today from Weber State. He looks sub 30 and will be making 6 figures. Not living in NYC. Or working 100 hrs a week.

Get a good attitude, take advantage of what your school offers and don’t look back.

Looking to transfer when you haven’t started. Wow. Get off the PC. It’s messing you up.
Enjoy the summer. Your school is elite. That’s awesome. Now show the world they were smart to accept you.

Fit is first. You need to be at a school day after day after day. And guess what - most Ivy won’t be in these roles you’ve graduated yourself too. They will be in the same jobs as the Nebraska person and Arizona State person, etc. and those schools litter high level jobs too. Just like HYPSM although maybe not to the same per capita.

Time to be an adult. If you give up on something b4 you even start you will have a miserable life.

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That’s not true at all. There are many such jobs that average 50 hours a week or less.

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I agree with much of the feedback so far.

I have knowledge of several IB intern classes at major banks this summer. There are students from the ‘elite’ schools of course, but also Temple, UGA, and a ton from Kelley. Just to name a few schools that I expect you see as lesser than your ‘lower Ivy’.

Getting into any of the jobs that you list will be a function of strong academics and ECs as well as networking. Good luck.

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That’s why I was focussing more on non-IB for the firms I listed above. I know for IB, prestige matters less than it did in the past but plays a large part in post-IB outcomes.

Maybe. But it doesn’t really matter. They all start at the same level, make the same comp, and then the path forward from there is up to each individual. Often the most successful people (the leaders) aren’t from HYPSM. In fact they are often not even from the Ivies. Don’t buy into all the hype.
I am speaking from personal experience as I work in this industry.

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Because it seems like if you don’t have an MD parent or qualify for one of the leadership development programs, you have to really focus on getting one of these jobs from the get-go at every school.

Is this a serious post? This is very similar to another post that turned out to be less than truthful. If it is real: get a reality check. Really. You can be highly successful in many fields and that is especially true at the school you got accepted ED. There is nothing magic about HYPSM and the kids there have zero guarantees of success.

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Your worry is misplaced. I have a child at one of the major IBs and she didn’t attend HYPSM.

And in terms of recruiting afterwards, it’s actually pretty easy to get into a major PE shop if one desires as well. Getting into the PE shops is not the difficult part. The difficult part is getting to partner or MD once you are in there.

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You are a hoax or seriously blinded.

Google any brokerage, Fortune 500 and read executive profiles.

I started in 1998 out of ASU MBA with a Dartmouth and UCLA MBA. We all made $64,992.

My son is interning with Ga Tech. Purdue. Olin. And more. And he’s from a mid level SEC school. All first year interns make the same. All second year make $1 more.

A Fortune 500 in upstate NY offered more but he likes his industry.

You need to stop obsessing. It’s only hurting your mindset and if you carry it to school, you will be ignored.

Every kid starts this fall with a wonderful opportunity. Show the world that you ran with yours into a life changing and overall fantastic experience.

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This!

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I was thinking of doing this to be honest but my hs would never send letters/transcripts unless I withdrew from my current school.

I read that if you want to break into a megafund post-IB doing corporate (not credit or real estate) private equity, your undergrad prestige matters a lot to head hunters.

I know this but to get to the point where you can show your skills (getting the job), HYPSM looks like it helps a lot, from the data at least