Females @ Harvard....

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<p>Oh really? If it's not part of your decision, why are you asking about it?</p>

<p>You previously wrote:</p>

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<p>And if the OC colleges don't appeal to you, I've heard that Arizona State has really hot girls. The US has a college to fit every guy, no matter what your tastes. Just keep looking. I'm sure you'll find your niche.</p>

<p>Why is it that only guys ask about the looks of prospective fellow students?</p>

<p>because women try to play "harder to get" and thus do a better job of hiding their sexual attraction ot the opposite sex...</p>

<p>coureur - you're right, I previously asked how the girls at Harvard rate. Because I'm interested. I also asked about people peeing on the statue at Harvard. I also asked about the Crimson, student organised bodies and grade inflation. That has absolutely no bearing on my university decision, for I decided long ago that I am only coming to America if I get into Harvard (in my opinion, the only one worth the money for an international, given that I am lucky enough to live in the UK which has plenty of great, and cheap, universities). I take my studies seriously - if I didn't, why the hell would I be on these boards at all trying to find out as much as I can about the American system and Americans, why the hell would I spend a weekend sitting SATs next month, and why the hell am I considering visiting America next year just to see Harvard?</p>

<p>Your implication about my basing my university decision on the quality of girls there is simply ridiculous. I just don't understand why Harvard students, Harvard alumni and anyone vaguely connected with Harvard, can't give way every once in a ****ing a while and tell the truth. What is the big deal? Harvard girls are not exactly renowned for their good looks. So what? People don't go to Harvard for the girls. They go for the fricking opportunities. I'm sure your daughter's really good-looking bla bla bla, but there is no need to be ashamed that your average Harvard girl ain't.</p>

<p>I can personally vouch for the fact that Coureur's D is good-looking. :)</p>

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<p>The problem here Ace, is that I fundamentially disagree with your assertions about the women of Harvard. Unlike you, I have spent considerable time on the Harvard campus and have seen thousands of the students there - half of them women, and I'd say that "your average Harvard girl" (as you put it) is quite attractive. I can't be "ashamed" about something that isn't true.</p>

<p>And I will say that anyone who actually uses the looks of the coeds as a criterion in college selection probably isn't all that concerned with academic achievement and thus may feel more comfortable at less academically-oriented schools - which is why I keep suggesting alternatives. I understand that you consider yourself to be a Serious Scholar, but YOU are the one undermining that notion by asking about the looks of the girls, not me.</p>

<p>This thread has certainly turned serious, hasn't it? </p>

<p>My two cents: women at Harvard are generally not "hot". Which is not to say that there aren't many good looking women at Harvard. Overall, I think Harvard students (men and women) are intrinsically no worse or better looking than the general population. But the concept of "hot" implies an attention to appearance - in terms of clothing, hair styling, makeup, etc. - that involves a fair amount of time, money and effort. As a general matter, appearance is just not a high enough priority for women at Harvard to invest that much into it. I don't think it's any different at other top schools.</p>

<p>Like coureur, however, I have heard that the women at ASU are hot. ;)</p>

<p>Cosar - congratulations - you've got the correct answer! When you're talking about thousands of people (as with the H student body), the distribution of most human characteristics should fairly resemble that of the general population. While the H student body isn't exactly a random sample, there's no reason to think that academic achievers should be less endowed with favorable physical characteristics than to assume they should vary from the general population in terms of height. (BTW, Harvard women tend to average between 5'4" - 5'6" with progressively fewer at heights much above that and progressively fewer at heights much below that). Whether academic achievers choose to invest as much of their time in attention to appearance is indeed a different question. And incidentally, there are about ten times as many attractive women at Arizona State as at Harvard (because there are ten times as many women at ASU as at H!).</p>

<p>I never said that Harvard women are hot. I agree that the women are Harvard are not "Hot" in the sense of being Barbie Doll fashionistas -- dressed like sluts and wearing so much make-up you could scrape it off with a putty knife. That's definitely not the Harvard look. What I said was that Harvard women are attractive. And I stand by that.</p>

<p>I also agree that there is the same distribution of attractive (and unattractive) people at Harvard as there is in the general population. With thousands of people enrolled at Harvard, statistically how could it be otherwise? Which is why the original questions are so foolish.</p>

<p>first of all, this is one of the stupidest threads i've ever seen. you would THINK that people who get into harvard would have more productive things to do, than to sit around and participate in 'hot or not' threads. its pathetic.</p>

<p>second of all, i bet 90% of the people on this thread are 'not'...in other words, they are ugly by the usual standards. so who the hell are you people to sit around and judge the harvard women who walk around campus? grow up.</p>

<p>third: if your so <em>ing curious about the amount of hot girls at harvard, why don't you get off your lazy a</em>* and visit it instead of discussing it on the internet.</p>

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Do you have trouble understanding the points I make? I already said - I asked about a number of things, amongst them peeing on the statue and The Crimson. You can't honestly accuse me of basing my decision on such trivialities, so how can you accuse me of doing so on the basis of the girls at Harvard? </p>

<p>And if that's not directed at me, the OP also has declared that he's simply wondering. I never realised that was such a crime.</p>

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Hahahaha, that's ridiculous. Why then is Brown, which enrolls less undergraduates, famous for its good-looking students? Every single person I know who's been to visit both (school thing each year where they spend about a day at each university) has mentioned the Brown girls as hot, referring to Harvard girls as only mediocre. </p>

<p>Please, give up the pretence. I don't know how many times I have to say it - the 'good-looking-ness' of the girls at Harvard is not going to sway my decision. If it was so important to me, maybe I'd be applying to Brown? The average might not be 'hot', but that's not to say they have other desirable qualities - we all know how much effort Harvard puts into its acceptance decisions, and that almost everyone who gets in will have something desirable, something different, some kind of talent. </p>

<p>Harvard has way more to offer than its girls.</p>

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Heheheh... Why your assumption about people using this thread being ugly? Are you ugly or...... is it that people who care about their futures are generally ugly? If you're applying the latter logic, surely the girls at Harvard will on average be worse looking?</p>

<p>The fact that he's asking on an internet board and not going all the way to Harvard to take a look at the quality of women, surely demonstrates that he does not give that much of a **** and is simply curious?</p>

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<p>Good idea! Since you are convinced that the women of Brown are so much better looking, and your obsession with this topic is self-evident, you should definitely forget all about Harvard and go to Brown. It's clearly a better fit for you.</p>

<p>the ace is back, </p>

<p>i didn't mean to offend people on this thread specifically or say you are ugly or that we are ugly. i meant MOST PEOPLE in general don't fit the 'hot' description so why should we sit around and generalize an entire group of females at harvard. its pointless and immature. saying harvard girls are 'not hot' or 'ugly' is rude and offensive.</p>

<p>I agree...you should go to Brown...you are not Harvard worthy....any idiot would know that you can't possible stereotype this kind of thing...it would be absurd. There will be attractive girls in any given group as well as girls who are not so attactive.</p>

<p>ilovecalifornia - you're right, sorry about that. And yeah, most people on these boards probably are ugly :)</p>

<p>coureur and dean4america - you disgust me.</p>

<p>Ace you're being so immature and pretty much seem to be the only one here concerned with this ridiculous topic. Don't you have some better things to do? Stop discussing things you know nothing about - come back and tell us your impressions after you actually visit Harvard.
And how could you possibly say most people on these boards are ugly? I've met many people in my life and only a handful of them could be called ugly. Most people are just normal. Only an insecure and inexperienced individual would spend a part of their day commenting other people's ugliness. Instead go work on yourself and try to be a better person. Arrogance won't help you neither in the admission process nor in life.</p>

<p>Wow, here I was thinking America was the land of the free where people understood the concept of 'freedom of speech'. Maybe things are different over in Bulgaria? You suggest I'm wasting my time asking questions and trying to discover the truth - you're wasting even more time telling me about it. coureur and dean4america are telling me to go apply to Brown and other universities because I don't believe that the average Harvard girl is 'hot'. I'm sorry if I hurt their feelings. And please, don't insult me like that - I can't honestly believe you're judging my personality on a few posts made on an internet forum. Pathetic.</p>

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<p>No need to apologize - you didn't hurt my feelings at all. It's pretty hard to get hurt over the uninformed opinions of a kid who has never even been to the places of which he pretends to have so much knowledge. And I don't recommend other schools to you because you are convinced that Harvard girls are not "hot". I recommend them to you (and to Dboy as well) because you are so concerned about the point and asking about it in the first place. The fact that you continue to focus on the question and argue about it at great length indicates that it is not a trivial matter to you. I'm just trying to help you find a school where you will fit in.</p>

<p>im probably toooo dumg for Harvard, even though I asically worship it!</p>