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<li>Purdue U</li>
<li>U Arizona</li>
<li>U Illinois Urbana</li>
<li>U Maryland Coll Park</li>
<li>U Mass Amherst</li>
<li>U Minn Twin Cities</li>
<li>U Washington</li>
<li>U Wis Madison
So this was my current college list until i started hearing that OOS schools consider for financial need of out of state students as if theyre going to get in state tuition.. if im an independent, how much can I expect to have to PAY in annual tuition for these schools including room and board etc? Also, any advice would be great - thanks.</li>
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<p>PS. My major is Comp Sci if you have any suggestions about other schools i should consider</p>
<p>first of all…are you sure you are independent. </p>
<p>Second…the cost of attendance at these schools is high for out of state students. None of these schools meets full need at all. If you have excellent stats (SAT and GPA, and recommendations, etc), you might qualify for a merit scholarship at some of these schools. In most cases these scholarships require an additional application that must be completed early in the application process…sometimes before December 1. You would have to check each college website to see what they offer AND what their requirements are for the scholarships both stat wise and in terms of applications and deadlines.</p>
<p>I just have to ask…you are from California. Why wouldn’t you be looking at some of the terrific instate schools in California that would be a fraction of the cost of attending any of the public universities you have listed above?</p>
<p>I don’t have the exact costs of attendance at these schools you have listed for out of state, but including room/board and tuition, you are probably looking at $30,000 a year give or take several thousand dollars.</p>
<p>living on my own with my own salary for a full year with no aid whatsoever..yeah id call myself an independent, and i dont qualify for in state tuition because ive only lived here a few months</p>
<p>what are some top notch CompSci schools that you think I should consider?
SATs - 1980
GPA - 3.2 (circumstantial)
Amazing ec’s recs and everything else</p>
<p>Just because YOU see yourself as independent DOES NOT mean the schools will see it the same way. There are some unique circumstances when someone under 23, or is it 24, is viewed as independent, but from my understanding it’s difficult to prove. You might want to research past threads here to find the criteria. </p>
<p>In all the schools my D and I have researched room and board seems to be about $8000-10,000/year. </p>
<p>I think IU OOS tuition is about $25,000 this year. Purdue’s is similar. So slightly more than $30,000.</p>
<p>OOS tuition at the U of Minn. was actually reduced quite a bit a while ago. Now it’s only 2,000 more a semester than in-state tuition, making it relatively cheap (relatively being the key word ;)).</p>
<p>the federal government is very specific as to what constitutes dependency. If you have not met one of the following, you will not be considered independent for FAFSA purposes (sorry there is no way around it). </p>
<p>Were you born before Jan. 1, 1985? </p>
<p>At the beginning of the 2008–09 school year, will you be working on a master’s or doctorate degree (such as an M.A., M.B.A., M.D., J.D., Ph.D., Ed.D., or graduate certificate, etc.)?</p>
<p>Are you married? (Answer “Yes” if you are separated but not divorced.) </p>
<p>Do you have children who receive more than half of their support from you? </p>
<p>Do you have dependents (other than your children or spouse) who live with you and who receive more than half of their support from you, now and through June 30, 2009?</p>
<p>Are (a) both of your parents deceased or (b) are you (or were you until age 18) a ward or dependent of the court?</p>
<p>Are you currently serving on active duty in the U.S. armed forces for purposes other than training? (If you are a National Guard or Reserves enlistee, are you on active duty for other than state or training purposes?)</p>
<p>Are you a veteran of the U.S. armed forces?*</p>
<p>Sorry but this does not make you an independent student for financial aid purposes. This is VERY different that being independent for tax purposes. Sybbie listed out the criteria for gaining independent status and it is very hard…very…to gain independent status for financial aid purposes unless you meet one of the above requirements.</p>
<p>In addition, the schools you list do NOT meet full need. In other words, even if your expected family contribution per the fafas was $0, you shouldn’t expect a full free ride. It’s not likely to happen. The full federal aid you receive would not come close to covering the costs of OOS tuition at any of the schools you listed. And that doesn’t include the $10,000 or so of room/board costs you would need to pay as well (oh…and add books, travel costs, personal expenses, etc). </p>
<p>Where do your parents live? You probably qualify for instate tuition at the public universities in that state. I would try there first if cost if a factor.</p>
<p>Also keep in mind that at many public universities, the standard for acceptance for OOS students is much higher than for instate students.</p>
<p>COlsen…OOS costs including tuition/room and board…and personal expenses will be in the $30,000 per year range give or take several thousand dollars. You can find out the specific costs at each college by going to their website. The costs for attendance for instate and out of state students is listed on each college website.</p>
<p>But…OOS…you’re looking at $30,000 or so (could be lower, could be higher). Room and board at most schools runs in the $10, 000 per year range. Tuition per year ranges from the low 20’s to the high 20’s for OOS students generally speaking. I’ve not researched the schools on your list, but generally speaking, those are the costs.</p>
<p>On another thread, you indicate that you lived the first 17 years of your life in NY. Does your family still live in NY? If so, you might want to look into the SUNY system. You are likely an instate resident for the SUNY’s if your family still resides there.</p>
<p>Also…help me with my confusion…are you a high school senior living independently in CA? If so, you must have a hefty income to support your living expenses. Keep in mind that when you fill out the FAFSA, that income from 2008 will be included on the form. If you really ARE living independently with no support from anyone, you would have to be earning upwards of $20,000 per year…AT LEAST…just to pay rent and food. That income (whatever it is) will be on the FAFSA as YOUR income when you do the filing of this form.</p>
<p>I just have to ask…you are from California. Why wouldn’t you be looking at some of the terrific instate schools in California that would be a fraction of the cost of attending any of the public universities you have listed above?</p>
<p>I would like to know too.</p>
<p>If you have exemplary stats- some OOS will give you merit aid- but you need to have choices that are affordable.</p>
<p>If you are working full time, that would mean you are earning about 45,000 per year. I hope you are saving some of that to pay for your college expenses. </p>
<p>Someone else here will be more specific with the numbers, but if you are not independent (and I don’t think you are), that $45,000 income will be viewed as your income on the FAFSA for the upcoming year. It is my opinion, that with that amount of student income, you are unlikely to qualify for much in need based federal aid..in fact, I’ll venture that you will qualify for no need based aid with that amount of student income.</p>
<p>I would strongly suggest that you look at your list of schools carefully. They are wonderful schools. Choose maybe one or two off of that list that are schools you really have an interest in. Then…look at the link cptofthehouse provided (if it works for you…it didn’t for me) and see if there are perhaps several schools on that list that are of interest to you. Then look at some schools that you would attend if accepted that are financially possible for you. </p>
<p>You need to have at least one school on that list that you are almost sure you’ll get accepted to, that you would attend if accepted, AND that you could pay for without financial aid/are guaranteed merit aid that would help you.</p>
<p>Just for the record…college students (not independent) who earn $45,000 a year would not be considered “poor”.</p>
<p>Now…back to my original question…what state do your parents reside in? It is very likely that you will qualify for instate residency at one of these schools in that state.</p>
<p>Also, are you currently in high school or did you take time off to work before entering college? Please, other than living apart from your parents and supporting yourself, what makes you think you are an independent student.</p>
<p>living across the country for my parents for a full year lol, my parents live in new york, i live in california. i am now considered a california resident because of having lived here and turning 18 while living here. and yes, i took a gap year. and the majority of my income goes to paying off loans and bills and everything else goes towards saving for college</p>
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<li>Purdue U</li>
<li>U Arizona</li>
<li>U Illinois Urbana</li>
<li>U Maryland Coll Park</li>
<li>U Mass Amherst</li>
<li>U Minn Twin Cities</li>
<li>U Pittsburgh</li>
<li>U Washington</li>
<li>U Wis Madison
So lets say this is my list, what schools should I remove - I like each of these schools just as much as the last and would be basically just as happy to go to any of them. Based on how much they offer in aid and how much I might have to pay what schools should I remove do you think? I was thinking removing Wisconsin..</li>
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<p>Sorry, but…
Work experience & ECs or not, you may not get into some of those programs because of your stats and residency. It would be even harder to judge if you’d qualify for scholarships.
For an example, Maryland-College Park offers transfer scholarships on the basis of GPA. To qualify, a in-state student needs at least a 3.5. An out of state student will have to very impressive to snatch one of those away.</p>
<p>BTW, you may be living alone, but until you’re 24 or married, you’re not an independent student in FAFSA’s eyes. You can appeal, but be ready for a fight. It’s up to you to prove you’re financially independent and unable to receive financial support from your parents.</p>
<p>Being able to prove that you are financially independent and unable to receive financial support from your parents will not make you independent. I have many students who make 3-4 times what their parents are making…and they remain dependent. Self-sufficiency is no longer a valid reason for overriding a student’s dependency status.</p>