"Finding Applicants Who Plagiarize "

<p>News:</a> Finding Applicants Who Plagiarize - Inside Higher Ed</p>

<p>"Carrie Marcinkevage, the program's admissions director, said she knew even before the most recent incident that some applicants plagiarized -- often badly. She described receiving essays in the past in which most of the application was in one font, but the essay was not only in a different voice but a different font, as if an applicant couldn't even be troubled to try to hide his dishonesty by changing fonts.....</p>

<p>....So the Penn State business program has become the first college or university program to go public about using a new admissions essay service offered by Turnitin, the dominant player in the plagiarism detection software for reviewing work submitted by college students. "</p>

<p>Wow!</p>

<p>and "appropriate attribution"</p>

<p>This is from "Inside Higher Education".</p>

<p>Intersting article. There is a lot of insight in their about how Adcomms expect even original essays to be edited by parents or others.</p>

<p>I found this part particularly interesting:</p>

<p>"Marcinkevage, of Penn State, said she views the use of Turnitin as allowing admissions officers to get out of the world of constant suspicion. “We don’t want to go into the process as cynics, trying to find something wrong,” she said. By running the Turnitin check first, she hopes, the admissions team will be able to focus on issues other than plagiarism.</p>

<p>She also said that due process is possible, and cited Penn State’s handling of this year’s plagiarism outbreak as an example. The 30 applicants who used material from the same essay were part of an applicant pool of 700, of whom 200 were admitted. All but three of the 30 were clear plagiarism, she said, with significant passages straight from the essay. Of those 27, one had already been admitted before the pattern was discovered (and the offer was rescinded), several who had been asked in for interviews had their interviews canceled and were rejected, while others were already in the rejection stack or hadn’t been fully evaluated yet when the plagiarism was detected, and were then rejected.</p>

<p>Three cases were ambiguous, within inappropriate paraphrasing, but not quite as bad as the others. she said. So the program did what it will do next year with ambiguous results, and called the three. They were told what happened, and asked to submit new essays. One of these three was admitted."</p>

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This is really sad. And fitting that the 30 that are the main example were on the topic of “principled leadership.”</p>

<p>What they should do is just stop using the essays - a waste of time and because people are paid to write them, parents write them and they are shared, they are indicative of nothing.</p>

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<p>Agree, or the essays should be about information consistent with the application - the geographical location, EC involvement, family members, etc.</p>

<p>“What they should do is just stop using the essays - a waste of time and because people are paid to write them, parents write them and they are shared, they are indicative of nothing.”</p>

<p>I don’t think that most student do the above.</p>

<p>There really are plenty of people who take pride in writing their own essays. </p>

<p>In addition, there are plenty of other times in one’s life when essays are important. For instance, I’ve had to write essays for fellowships, job applications (cover letters really are essays), internships, city leadership programs connected with the Chamber of Commerce. </p>

<p>I’ve always written my own essays and only rarely (cover letters are about the only time) have shown those essays to anyone except the people who’ll receive them. I take pride in presenting myself the way I want to.</p>

<p>I never saw younger son’s essays for college and scholarships. I saw older son’s ones, and made some suggestions, but I definitely didn’t write or rewrite them. </p>

<p>I’ve looked at other students’ essays and helped them think of interesting topics about their lives to write about, but I haven’t rewritten anything for them.</p>

<p>I do think that essays can tell much more about a person than one can tell from the rest of the application. The interview is another place where you can learn a lot about an applicant and that can also give a strong hint about whether the applicant wrote their own essay.</p>

<p>Interesting article…our high school uses turnitin.com for writing assignments in English and other classes.</p>

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<p>I dunno, I think most people write their own essays and are proud of it. I mean, I had other people read mine, and most of the time I liked what I had written about myself so much that I didn’t even bother to take their advice, even if it made sense to me. I think the essays are very important and help distinguish between top applicants (and plus, if it weren’t for essays I don’t think I’d have gotten in ;))</p>

<h1>“We hear more about essays that have been doctored or assisted,” he said. “And I’m not sure Turnitin will help identify those cases,” since a parent or adviser or hired gun can submit original work (even if it’s not the work of the applicant).</h1>

<p>I think this is a bigger problem and much harder to identify. </p>

<p>My daughter has such a different take on life that I would have hated for her not to have had the opportunity to write essays for admissions. I could not have come up with any of her ideas.</p>

<p>This article (cited in the first one) – has some interesting points as well:</p>

<p>[News:</a> False Positives on Plagiarism - Inside Higher Ed](<a href=“http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2009/03/13/detect]News:”>http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2009/03/13/detect)</p>

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<p>You can tell that these students weren’t really “passionate” about this application. Can you say, “safety school”?</p>

<p>In all seriousness, that’s pathetic. Cheating and dishonesty is a pervasive part of our world, but if you’re going to indulge in that kind of behavior – and you really, really shouldn’t – then at least respect your victim enough to do a good job. Be like that kid who faked his way into Harvard and put some bloody effort into it. Cobbling an essay out of random bits and pieces from the Internet – without even changing the font to make it look like it was from the same essay – but shows contempt for the reader and for the reader’s institution. It’s like you’re saying, “You people are so stupid that I don’t even have to make my lies seem even slightly plausible.”</p>

<p>Disgusting.</p>

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<p>That’s why the professor is supposed to read the report before automatically sanctioning the student. These machines can be a great asset but they’re fallible and shouldn’t replace the professor’s judgment.</p>

<p>Thanks for posting these articles, Shrinkrap and calmom.</p>

<p>On the font issue. I could see how that could happen without it being cheating. If I fill out an on-line application but type my essay on my word processing software where I like to use a different font (I like Garamond), and then cut and paste it in the application, it would be a different font.</p>

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<p>How could you identify that? I mean, short of telling the student, “You are too stupid to write something this sophisticated, fess up!”, you’re pretty much stuck with comparing her SATs and English grades to the level of the writing (vocabulary, syntax, etc.) and… I can’t think of any other tricks. If the school does interviews, that might be another way to interrogate the student but is that really what we want alumni interviews to be about?</p>

<p>You really can’t identify it when someone uses something that someone else wrote but did not publish, but you do hear of people who write their kids’ essays. And people hire private college counselors, and it is difficult to know how much help is given.</p>

<p>Re post #11 – one reason I would be particularly concerned about false positives with plagiarism detecting software is the current prevalence of blogging, social media, and web sites with user-edited content, such as wikipedia. For example, I sometimes edit wikipedia where I see factual errors in areas where I have some expertise; I’ve written a couple of books and it is easy enough for me to simply fix the wikipedia article by living the sentence or paragraph from one of my books that has the correct information. </p>

<p>But if I were to submit some sort of academic paper that was partly a cut-and-paste job taken from my own previous writing on the subject… would my work be flagged as plagiarized from Wikipedia, because I made the mistake of lending my own work to that collaborative effort? </p>

<p>Similarly – when my daughter was in high school living abroad, she kept a blog. In that blog there were several posts that I thought would make good fodder for college admissions essays. One in particular had an opening line that was particularly engaging; the post itself was revelatory, poignant and humorous – so I conveyed my feelings to my d. Months later, when my d. was sitting with the Harry Baud book in hand, inspiration struck – and that blog post was revived. She actually reworked and revised the initial idea considerably – but there were some phrases, including the opening sentence, that were simply too good to let go. But even if she had not revised that blog post… it was her post – but for a time it was out there on the internet, subject to being spidered by Google and/or copied by others and reposted without attribution. How would she have ever proved it was her own, even if given the chance?</p>

<p>Professionally, I have done a lot of web site content production, both with my own writings and in posting the properly attributed work of others on web sites - and, as anyone can see, in doing my part to help keep the CC forums full of words. Some of the content that I have written is under my real name – some, like the thousands of CC postings, is done under internet pseudonyms, used to protect my family’s privacy. I have also seen my work – and the copyrighted work of others that was posted on one of the web sites I manage – copied verbatim and reposted on many other web sites, often without attribution. If and when I find it, I generally write to the owners of the other sites and request either removal of the text or proper attribution – but I don’t find everything. There was a particular article written by someone I work with, that has been posted and reposted all over the internet for more than a dozen years – and this week I discovered it copied verbatim, without attribution, in a research journal publication (!) </p>

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<p>Obviously, none of these observations apply to the situation where 30 separate essays seem to come from the same place. If my daughter’s poignant blog post was disseminated around the globe and copied by 30 other students for use in their college essays, that would clearly have been plagiarism. </p>

<p>I am just talking about the problem that arises in documenting the original source in a world in which youngsters are putting their words out for public dissemination from their early teens – and others are copying and reposting and recirculating. </p>

<p>“Due process” and notice of the allegation of plagiarism would at least give an individual the opportunity to demonstrate the original source. If someone copies stuff from my books, a large portion of which can be easily accessed via Google books – and then I reuse my own stuff – I can always go back to the original, copyrighted book and its date of publication to demonstrate the source of the work. </p>

<p>But I can see a situation where such proof of originality would not be so easy for a youthful blogger whose work is readily copied and reposted to other blogs, and who may very well write under a pseudonym. </p>

<p>I myself often have great difficulty when I am writing and trying to source information to locate the original source – I’ve read it on one web site, but a Google search of a phrase turns up the same word-for-word content on other web sites – and there is no way to ascertain where it originated.</p>

<p>The font thing is just silly. My daughter wrote all of her essays in Word and then cut and pasted them into the applications. I’m sure she didn’t consider that the font might not match. I don’t think the majority of kids cheat on their essays but I still think they are largely a waste of time. I think they make admissions folk feel better about having something subjective in the mix.</p>

<p>Just want to second calmom’s insightful post. My S also took some work he had posted on the internet and turned it into an essay for one of the colleges he applied to. I doubt any other students would have used it for a college essay, but turnitin would have flagged it.</p>

<p>Wow…I’m really surprised that people would really stoop down to plagiarizing on their applications. I went through the application process last year and stealing essays or passages from different essays never even crossed my mind. I thought that the essay portion of the application was one of the best parts about filling out an application-even though I had to write literally like fifty of them!-because it allowed me to distinguish myself from the other amazing applicants and could give me a one-up in one of the weaker areas of my application. I guess I can understand why students would feel that they were driven to the point of plagiarizing (they want to get into a specific college, their writing skills aren’t up to par, etc.), but I guess I’m just naive too for thinking that people would be honest about that kind of thing. I’d rather not get into a college than have the guilt of possibly getting into a college based on an essay that I didn’t even take the time to write, but maybe that’s just me…</p>

<p>My son’s first paragraph was actually intentional plagiarism. He had written a program that took snippets from various college essays on line and put them together to make some sort of almost correct sounding English paragraph. He did explain what he’d done in the next paragraph, so I am sure even if he’d gotten flagged, the reader would have realized why.</p>