First college visit

<p>D has a day off next Wednesday. I saw it as a great time to get in a college visit, but one that was close to home since we only have a day. We're starting with the university in our hometown (I know, kind of a let down, but we have to begin somewhere. Also winter in the midwest can be tricky for travel plans.) I want to make sure my own knowledge of the university and personal bias in favor of it don't get in the way. I really want this to be about our D and what will best suit her. </p>

<p>Any suggestions for objective questions or other advice? I did a bit of a search for previous threads, but I didn't find anything. So what did all of you look for, ask, etc. on those visits?</p>

<p>Are you visiting on your own, or is this an organized, college sponsored visit with tours and info sessions?</p>

<p>Before our visits we read about each school in the Fiske and Insiders guides and I encouraged my son to generate questions, but the first set of colleges, we mostly learned how to listen and look by going on the tours and doing info sessions. You just need to start somewhere and you will learn as you go. Hanging around the library and student center are good. Look at the posters, eat lunch there and talk to as many students as possible.</p>

<p>Try not to embarrass your kid by appearing more interested in the school than she is. Try to wait for her response to the school and not bias it with yours. DH infuriated me a few times by saying things like, "I don't know--the kids here don't seem very smart to me." Arrrgh!</p>

<p>I called the admissions office and scheduled a tour. We've taken plenty of walks around campus on our own. D even used the university library a couple of weeks ago for a research paper. We'll walk around campus, see some buildings and dorms, and have an info session. </p>

<p>I feel kind of silly now about this post. I found the CC information about college visits. It's on the home page not the discussion pages.</p>

<p>Great that you are visiting and starting the process-- have fun with it if you can. Visiting a variety of colleges, large, medium, small....rural, urban, suburban...can be a good idea if a preference is not already known. Go to the info sessions and tours and try to eat on campus. No more than 2 schools/day if possible. After you've seen a few, subtle and large distinctions will be apparent. Parents should not express opinions (IMHO)-- just let the student sniff it out and get the feel of each campus.....they will be opinionated! This is just a start.
It might help to take "notes" at info sessions. This is where parents can help if the student is too busy listening.</p>

<p>Once you've found a style or school that interests your student, read the guides! I liked the Princeton Review 300 plus Best Colleges because the side bars have a lot of info. On the right are lists of schools that are similarly liked and that can be a good resource. Also remember that if an applicant applies to all those similar schools they may be competing with the same set of kids. So, use that list to apply to schools outside of that group too. Find some guides that work for you... libraries have them. Some schools' guidance departments can really help too-- with advice about visits and which schools to start with.</p>

<p>After a while you'll figure out what features are most important to your student and then together you ( or the student alone) can begin to go more in depth with particular schools or programs. In the end I think everyone needs at least 6 schools that could work-- 2 reaches, 2 or 3 matches and 1 or 2 that are "likely" acceptances.</p>

<p>No need to feel silly. We were all there once before, both in terms of finding our way around this site and in taking the first college visit.</p>

<p>With this visit, you are building a foundation for comparison, if nothing else.</p>

<p>bethievt said it well!</p>

<p>"We're starting with the university in our hometown (I know, kind of a let down, but we have to begin somewhere."</p>

<p>Doing that is an excellent idea. Your D is probably going to feel most comfortable there, and may be able to ask more questions and notice more things than if you started in a strange place.</p>

<p>I did something similar with my S, and it was very useful.</p>

<p>Take notes and take pictures of the colleges that you visit. And wander into places like the student eateries and libraries. Those are good places to get into casual conversations. My S was shy about doing this, but was happy to listen when I talked to students. The students also remembered what it was like when they were touring campuses, so they were very kind to both of us.</p>

<p>Does your daughter know anyone that goes to that school already? Maybe some kids from her high school that are acquaintances of hers? If so, suggest that she call them to meet up with them during the day.</p>

<p>My first college visit was pretty informal--I met up with my friend's older sister (she went to my high school also) and she showed me around campus and around Greek Town. I liked the easy, conversational nature of our tour and I was able to ask her questions I may have felt stupid asking tour guides or asking people that I didn't already know.</p>

<p>I would say go on a tour, look around some classroom buildings, and eat there. Then meet up with someone you know that goes to school on campus and ask to see their dorm and where all the students like to hang out. Do people go downtown a lot? How long does it take to walk to classes? What's the community like within the dorms? If you have a problem that can't be solved easily, are administrators accessible? How do students like to spend weekends? Is Greek life popular? Is it easy to get classes you want? Do the professors care about the classes they're teaching?</p>

<p>After getting the answers to most of those questions I felt like I knew plenty about the campus. I ended up going there too!</p>

<p>Good points from NSM and kristen</p>

<p>We took notes and photos. We never saw more than ONE school a day unless it was basically in the same town and we did, as parents, help him connect with students until he felt comfortable doing that himself.</p>

<p>I have recently been on several campus tours to schools here in Texas. I found the tours to be very organized but know that they also are trying to sell you their school. You need to go out on your own when visiting a school. I also like the Petersons guide and also recently found the College Help Guide ebook which was great for new students. Some of the things they listed that we often forget about was to look at the campus grounds, new buildings on campus, cleanliness of dining halls, are the residence halls secured, is there a lot of life on campus, what is the health center like, how good is the lighting around campus at night time, sporting facilities if D is an athlete, how much parking is there and cost, what are their computers like, are they up to date with the latest technology, how quiet or noisy are the dorms, is the campus secure and are the police visible and do they conduct regular patrols, size and quality of dorm rooms, cultural diversity of students and much more. Best to just have your own checklist that suits your personal pref. I even took a camera to look at the photos later on.</p>

<p>the first two visits I did were when my parents decided to use a day trip and spring break to visit colleges within a couple of hours. I think it was a negative that they decided "when" as well as "where." I didn't apply to either one for different reasons, but going did help me decide what to look for on other visits.</p>

<p>I don't know if this qualifies as being sneaky and manipulative, but I suspect I know which schools will be a better fit for my sophomore (we're starting some college visits). I've suggested seeing schools that she likes but that I'm not too enthusiastic about right away. It's cold, gray, and yucky right now. The schools will definitely not be at their best. </p>

<p>I'm holding off on the college visits to MY choices for her until March and April, or September-October of next year when the schools will be in session but might be at their prettiest. My sister still talks about that blissful moment when she did a college visit to the school she ultimately picked, and saw a group of students playing guitar on a quad under beautiful old trees. OK, it was the 60s, but it still sold her on the school. </p>

<p>Of course, if some of the schools that she visits in a parka stay on the list, I may have to reconsider...</p>

<p>Oh, we saw the NE schools in Feb when the weather was awful--I mean awful. I thought the midwest schools would be my son's best matches and we visited them in late April when the trees were blossoming and so were the students. But he re-visited every favorite school--I think he got a good view. And Neonzeus, I thought I knew what my son's first choice would be and I was wrong. I got the midwest part right, but I was wrong about the school; I guess it was where I would have gone. But it was his pick and I learned to trust my son. He's a very happy camper.</p>

<p>Not sure if this will work at a large school, but a good thing to ask at the admissions office info desk is "where is a good place to eat lunch?" This often will get you a free lunch coupon at the cafeteria.</p>

<p>What Bethievt said.</p>

<p>Make sure your daughter signs in so she's on the mailing list. Ask if she can sit in on a class. If she has some clear areas of interest, ask where those classes are held and go back to see those buildings at the end of your tour. It may be possible to strike up a conversation with students or a professor. I always ask the students how accessible the professors are and I always ask them what happens if you're finding a class too difficult. Oh, and I like to pick up a catalog so we can read about their AP policy/ general education requirements/ etc. policies at our leisure.</p>

<p>I'm happy for you both to be going on a first tour! The first suggestions that pop into my mind:</p>

<p>Let your D take the lead, but recognize that you are valuable as someone with whom she can process her perceptions. We used to tour and I'd stay quiet, then we'd sit down somewhere for tea and I'd say, "What did you think..?" Let her lead the conversation. If she's quiet and doesn't quite know what to ask about, you can make observations as you walk to kind of clue her in to what to look for, like, "Interesting architecture, don't you think?" or "Look at what they're doing.." if you see a table set up with a student club or something; just call her attention to areas to look at, but she can draw her own conclusions.</p>

<p>It's okay if you are a bit more talkative as you walk along on this first visit, as it will give her some modeling. Some kids aren't quite sure what to look for. And since it's close, you can always re-visit it after you are both more experienced by visitng elsewhere. You really can't go wrong here, so relax and enjoy.</p>

<p>On the official tour, there have been many threads about how mortified kids are at their parents' questions, so my advice is simply: as a parent, don't ask any. There isn't anything you can't find out later. SHE can ask, or not. She's more likely to begin to articulate her own questions on future tours if you don't overpower her this first time. Learn from what others ask, and giggle about their questions later, too.</p>

<p>Read the website very well before you tour, so you can look for things that aren't there and obvious. You might also see if she has a particular interest area and begin to make a comparison basis. For example, if she loves art, visit the art museum and art library; then when you go elsewhere, you have a baseline to compare. </p>

<p>Although the 'net rules all, I still found it interesting to compare bulletin boards at all the campuses, for student activities. My kids were less interested; I think they assume, correctly, they can compare that by viewing campus calendars posted online. However, there are often unofficial, last-minute student events that never make the official college calendar. These go up as xeroxed flyers on the bulletin board. Sometimes you catch a flavor of a place just by seeing the graphics, whether there are flyers piled upon flyers or the bulletin boards look "lonely" and sparse.</p>

<p>My pet peeve on tours: if the campus has co-ed bathrooms in the dorms, don't occupy tour airtime asking about it. There are more important issues to the students, and there are always governance rules to be sure they have choices, so don't fret about co-ed bathrooms! You have coed bathrooms at home already... if it bothers her or you, just ensure that there's a way a student can find her own comfort level, or that the floor votes on it and there are alternatives. Don't let it be a dealbreaker, in other words. </p>

<p>See if you can visit a Student Union especially around 4 p.m., to see what it looks like when students have no classes or are winding up their academic day before dinner begins. Notice if they seem to stop and talk with each other or rush on by. That's a baseline for other schools. </p>

<p>Watch to see if kids walk together or all seem to make bee-lines alone. </p>

<p>Sit still for awhile and watch, listen. If you're always moving you can't quite absorb the tone of the students. Have some tea in a student union, for example, or sit around a cafeteria as the students assemble for a meal, if you can. </p>

<p>See if your D wants to split up for an hour and explore for herself, meeting you back in an hour. If so, let her know she can announce herself as a prospective student, and ask away. </p>

<p>Ask for directions and look lost; see if people are helpful or not.</p>

<p>Best wishes. Think of this as great mom-daughter time! She'll remember it and so will you.</p>

<p>We decided for the first phase to show a large university (Purdue - where D was at a church conference), two branches of the State system (Binghamton and Geneseo, D there anyway for an academic and leadership thing), and we are going down to Davidson for their Junior Day this weekend, for the LAC example. Hopefully by then she can make a decision on type and size - next phase will have to wait until summer since track season lasts through the spring break..</p>

<p>Thanks for the idea to sample the caf food - I honestly didn't think of that, but we always do visit the library wherever we go - Good luck!</p>

<p>Grab the student-run newspapers,they can reveal campus culture.</p>