<p>Plyler vs Doe…all children have legal right to attend K-12 public schools regardless of legal status.</p>
<p><a href=“Article: Plyler v. Doe: Still Guaranteeing Unautho.. | migrationpolicy.org”>http://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/plyler-v-doe-still-guaranteeing-unauthorized-immigrant-childrens-right-attend-us-public</a></p>
<p>Free K-12 public schooling without question started in 1982, and the EMTALA (Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act) was enacted in 1986. Free schooling AND emergency medical care for anyone in the US. What a deal for the illegals!</p>
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<p>Illegal immigrants are not all economic migrants; the parents are not all low-socioeconomic laborers. Some are **DELIBERATE education migrants. **<br>
<a href=“http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/in-s-korea-the-best-education-means-a-sacrifice-for-parents/2012/11/05/6adb0564-256f-11e2-9313-3c7f59038d93_story.html”>http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/in-s-korea-the-best-education-means-a-sacrifice-for-parents/2012/11/05/6adb0564-256f-11e2-9313-3c7f59038d93_story.html</a></p>
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<p>SKorea has a per capita GDP similar to France. Middle class & upper income SKoreans are migrating to the U.S. for free English language education for their kids. Now, not only can these middle-class kids get free K-12 in the U.S., they can also get subsidized college-- what a deal! </p>
<p>In the country I am presently living in, the Korean goose families are paying over $25k tuition for English-language int’l school, and they are not eligible for subsidized college education. Dumb!</p>
<p>I think it is indefensible that the US treats legal immigrants and ILLEGALS in different ways, to the benefit of the ILLEGALS. Why should the legal immigrants (F-1 Visas) be limited to one year of education for their children, and have to pay the full unsubdized cost of this education? And the illegals pay nothing. </p>
<p>With the new in-state tuition arrangement for undocumented immigrants in Florida, the best deal right now for illegals just finishing high school could be Florida’s newest state university, Florida Poly. Florida Poly is giving free tuition to its first freshmen class beginning this coming fall. If the new in-state tuition for undocumented immigrants means they will be classified as Florida residents for tuition purposes, I don’t know how Florida Poly could legally charge them tuition if admitted.</p>
<p><a href=“http://tbo.com/news/education/florida-polytechnicx2019s-plan-free-tuition-for-incoming-freshmen-20130826/”>http://tbo.com/news/education/florida-polytechnicx2019s-plan-free-tuition-for-incoming-freshmen-20130826/</a></p>
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<p>Because when the legals go back to their home country, they will not be future voters…</p>
<p>@lizard Florida Poly is offering scholarships, which the undocumented immigrants could not receive. They still don’t qualify for state sponsored scholarships, Bright Futures, etc. </p>
<p>@GMTplus7, since the “Goose families” are here legally, they would not qualify for a subsidized college education (unless they over stay their visa and become “undocumented”). In fact, I think Goose Families say more about the state of Korean K-12 education, than it does about the US.</p>
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<p>The alternative is for illegal immigrants to go back to their country of citizenship educate their kids there and apply for citizenship the way they are supposed to.</p>
<p>Once the recession hit and the jobs dried up we saw this happening. </p>
<p>For most all offenses, when a parent is caught doing something illegal, yes, the children pay. Absolutely. The children of those who are incarcerated pay terribly. Why should it be different for illegal status? It’s usually not just a matter of simply being here illegally either. Many are driving with fake licenses, have fake id, are not paying taxes, are even voting (since many places have very, very lax checks for voter registration), are giving false address and other info. The honor student from Kennesaw U had a long list of offenses, that would have landed a citizen in jail. </p>
<p>Of course kids don’t get to continue to benefit after a parent is found guilty of doing something illegal. There is nothing new here. </p>
<p>Do Bernie Madoff’s kids still live in the opulence they were used to? </p>
<p>US citizenship has value. </p>
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<p>The alternative that makes sense is to send them back, with their parents, to their country of citizenship. It can’t possibly cost more than $11,000 to do so, and that is the average amount of yearly K-12 spending that would have gone to educate them for a year.</p>
<p>Why should kids be punished for their parents’ actions? Don’t we want to “level the playing field”? by Sally305 on May 9th</p>
<p>That is to the state to which I am responding. When we can level the playing field for the many kids legally in this country punished by their parents’ actions and non actions, then maybe we can turn our attentions to those who are here illegally. </p>
<p>There is much that we have to do for our legal citizens. </p>
<p>I am aware that Florida is not the only state that has passed such an act My state has too. I guess the question becomes whether this is a situation that applies for legal immigrants as well. As I said upthread, it really burned my brother to have paid $15K for his niece to go to public school in his area, for a year, when there are illegals who are sending their kids there because for K-12, if you don’t indicate you are here legally, you get a free pass. You go through the hoops as you should, you pay. How it works for college I don’t know. </p>
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Exactly! This pandering to the illegals is just plain wrong. The poor "dream"ing children are not the Special Victim Snowflakes that many make them out to be. </p>
<p>“It can’t possibly cost more than $11,000 to do so”</p>
<p>Each deportation costs about $12,500, according to the federal government in 2011. Of course, knowing the number won’t settle any debate about whether it’s a good spending priority, but that’s what it costs on average.</p>
<p>Why? Not every deportation requires a complicated legal dispute. Or shouldn’t. In a clear case a plane or bus ticket should do the trick. And there is no shortage of clear cases. </p>
<p>Why does it cost that much, you mean? It’s an average that includes a lot of cheap cases and a smaller number of $100k+ cases where the cost includes months of detention pending trial. The time of government lawyers and immigration judges is expensive, but it’s renting space in jails and prisons to hold people that really runs up the bill. The annual immigration detention budget is about $2 billion, with about 35,000 people held on any given day. Not everyone who is detained gets deported, so figuring out the average cost of a deportation is more complicated.</p>
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<p>And there is the issue right there. It is in the best financial interest of lawyers and others to keep these things going and spend more money on it. In a rational world there is no reason to have a trial. We aren’t even talking about something that has any wiggle room like a ticket for running a red light would have.</p>
<p>That calculation is typical government math - let’s build up a big program and then not use it enough - oops, the cost per use is too high!</p>
<p>There are other successful models for this that we can copy from other countries such as Mexico, France, UK, Sweden, Japan, etc.</p>
<p>I can assure you there is very little about those countries we would want to copy. You think we have problems? millions flee Mexico; France and the UK have a huge “undocumented worker” problem (“rioting in the streets”/“putting terrorist on the dole” level problems); and Japan is busy trying to perfect Robots to compensate for it’s quickly declining population. </p>
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<p>Mexico is very active in managing the inflow of illegal immigrants from their southern border. </p>
<p>The U.K is working on it. From wiki, I thought this was surprising from 2013: "The Home Office introduced an advertising lorry in London with its billboard saying “In the UK illegally? — GO HOME OR FACE ARREST — Text HOME to 78070 for free advice, and help with travel documents. We can help you return home voluntarily without fear of arrest or detention.” Note, they aren’t thinking about spending $11k/person. LOL. </p>
<p>The Japanese issue you mentioned has nothing to do with whether or not they are dealing with illegal immigration. Try and be an illegal immigrant in Japan and see how far that gets you.</p>
<p>The problem is that they are ILLEGAL. They should not be in my country, let alone be allowed to receive in-state tuition. Even though I am a resident of the great Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, my heart sinks a little bit whenever I see something like this. All illegals, no matter which country they originate from (I know several illegal African immigrants who fly to the Philadelphia area to deliver their babies in the name of citizenship), should be given a one way ticket back to their point of origin. Children of illegals, however, should possibly be given a chance at becoming citizens if they show a legitimate interest in contributing to the United States. This can be proven by means of assessing the desire to become educated, serving in the military, and a general love and pride for the United States. </p>