Food-a-plenty

Colleges and Universities A-Z Naval Academy - Annapolis
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<p>Naval Academy shows off mess hall, says there never was real shortage</p>

<p><a href="http://www.hometownannapolis.com/cgi-bin/read/2007/09_07-49/NAV%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.hometownannapolis.com/cgi-bin/read/2007/09_07-49/NAV&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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Three weeks after complaints surfaced that Naval Academy midshipmen were not getting enough food, the 4,400-member Brigade of Midshipmen had plenty to eat last night.</p>

<p>They dined on salad, Venetian chicken, mashed potatoes, whole kernel corn, shortbread cookies, punch and milk - and plenty of it.</p>

<p>After dinner in King Hall, the academy's dining facility, each 12-member squad table typically had anywhere from six to 10 chicken breasts left over....

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<p>Healthier food draws good reviews at Naval Academy</p>

<p><a href="http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/annearundel/bal-md.ar.menu07sep07,0,367033.story%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/annearundel/bal-md.ar.menu07sep07,0,367033.story&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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Just weeks after a series of complications left some midshipmen without enough food, the Naval Academy debuted a healthier menu that appears to have left many feeling, well, full.</p>

<p>Instead of a breakfast of small amounts of sugar cereals or hamburger buns and gravy, or a dinner of one slice of pizza or one chicken strip, midshipmen have begun to devour ample portions of Kashi cereal, turkey tacos, brown rice, whole wheat pasta, baked fries and rye or wheat bread....

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salad, Venetian chicken, mashed potatoes, whole kernel corn, shortbread cookies, punch and milk - and plenty of it.

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<p>it's certainly a step in the right direction-
but a balanced diet includes foods from all 4 food groups.
Someone ought to remind Lt Cmdr Rogers that corn is not a vegetable- last I looked, it is still a starch.</p>

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<p>Salad doesnt have vegetables?</p>

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<p>"If the Party could thrust its hand into the past and say this or that even, it never happened—that, surely, was more terrifying than mere torture and death." </p>

<p>"And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed—if all records told the same tale—then the lie passed into history and became truth. 'Who controls the past' ran the Party slogan, 'controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.'" </p>

<p>1984</p>

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<p>I don't know Bill, that's awful heavy for an 08:56am Saturday post....maybe after another cup of coffee, </p>

<p>If I might add, whenever I talk to my sons about history, I remind to think about who wrote what they are reading and keep in mind: "He who wins the war, writes the history"</p>

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<p>And Navy2010 astutely noted ...</p>

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salad, Venetian chicken, mashed potatoes, whole kernel corn, shortbread cookies, punch and milk - and plenty of it. </p>

<p>it's certainly a step in the right direction-
but a balanced diet includes foods from all 4 food groups.
Someone ought to remind Lt Cmdr Rogers that corn is not a vegetable- last I looked, it is still a starch.

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<p>and then jpr_firegold said ..</p>

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Salad doesnt have vegetables?

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<p>and then Whistle Piggy said ...</p>

<p>"Oh jpr_ . You're in VEWWIE BIG twubble now! 'Cuz I tot I taw a putty tat ..." </p>

<p>Don't know if they teach you such a maneuver jpr_ , but were I you, I'd be diggin a foxhole and gittin' in 'er! :eek: </p>

<p>Don't sweat it though. You're not alone in assuming correctly that *salad = vegetables * though. Heck, rumor has it that noted and frequent poster thought kernel corn was a mean old Marine stationed at the Yard to ensure her most-certainly soon-to-be malnourished middie did not receive a 2nd helping of filet mignon. :confused:</p>

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<p>WP, </p>

<p>Point of clarification here</p>

<p>Are we talking about the 1956 food groups </p>

<p>(1) meats, poultry, fish, dry beans and peas, eggs, and nuts;
(2) dairy products, such as milk, cheese, and yogurt;
(3) grains; and
(4) fruits and vegetables.</p>

<p>Or the 1992 revision… </p>

<p>The New Four Food Groups are:</p>

<p>(1) The whole grain group - includes bread, pasta, breakfast cereal, rice dishes, corn, and other grains. They provide fiber, complex carbohydrates, important vitamins, and an adequate amount of protein (neither too much nor too little). Especially valuable are unprocessed whole-grain products, as compared to grains which have been ground up into flour or stripped of their bran.
(2) The vegetable group - includes broccoli, carrots, lettuce, cabbage, potatoes, and cauliflower. Vegetables are particularly rich in vitamins and minerals. Beta carotene, found primarily in yellow and green vegetables such as carrots, broccoli, and spinach, has been found to reduce the risk of cancer and other diseases. Green leafy vegetables are also very good sources of fiber, complex carbohydrates, and calcium.
(3) The fruit group - includes apples, bananas, peaches, pears, and oranges, as well as exotic fruits, such as kiwis and carambola. Because they are very rich in complex carbohydrates, vitamins, and fiber, fruits provide valuable resistance to heart disease, cancer, and other degenerative diseases.
(4) The legume group - includes foods that come in a pod, such as beans, peas, lentils, soy, tofu, and tempeh. These foods are excellent sources of fiber, complex carbohydrates, protein, and minerals.</p>

<p>Assuming there are using the most recent one....where do you stick the chicken? WP any thoughts or suggestions.....?</p>

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<p>WP- no, fact is you have had one thread removed.
IMO, you are on the verge of another.</p>

<p>The real problem is that you still have not learned to "respect" anyone on here.
And that is the really sad part.</p>

<p>Not taking your bait anymore.</p>

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<p>rjr-
I stand corrected.</p>

<p>Note to self:
corn is now a whole grain,
and lettuce is a vegetable.</p>

<p>so where is all the chicken/fish/pork/lean red meat?????
Are you sure there isn't a 5th group???
and what happened to all the dairy???? cheese- milk- ice cream....
(does that mean no more ice cream? :eek: )</p>

<p>hmmmmmmm...
"if I could turn back the hands of time...."....
sorta missing the 1956 one already!!
( I hate tofu! :( )</p>

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<p>I am sorry that your mids are having a difficult time with the food situation. First it was the lack of quanity and then quality. Now it's the interpretation of the food groups. Are your mids complaining? Mine told me that this was never a "real issue" for him or the mids that he knows. "Just a bump in the road Dad." It makes me wonder if the mids are having issues with the food or is it us parents? The only negative that I have heard about the changes is the lack of "work out time." My personal one is the lack of representation at football games. To some candidates to be, this is the "face" of the academy from a mentors and parents point of view. Deal with issues? Yes, but also know when to move on. I have noticed that there are less questions from prospective candidates. I hope that us parents are not responsible for running them off with our petty and inane threads. This forum is for them, not us. Maybe some of us should start a Naval Academy Parents forum separate from the Service Academies group. Just a thought.</p>

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<p>well said.</p>

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<p>"I hope that us parents are not responsible for running them off with our petty and inane threads."</p>

<p>I'll admit that sometimes parents on this forum come off a bit... strong. But if we can't handle the arguments I don't see how we can handle life at the Academy. :p I've been here for a while, so you guys don't make me run off the forums. However, I cannot speak for others and I DO think that this is quite possible.</p>

<p>Just some opinion from an applicant. :)</p>

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<p>My dd rarely checks posts here anymore, although she does ask me if there is anything worth reading. She used to read every day. Highly interested in USNA, just not interested in threads when things turn to disrespectful bickering. One more data point.</p>

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I am sorry that your mids are having a difficult time with the food situation. First it was the lack of quanity and then quality. Now it's the interpretation of the food groups. Are your mids complaining? Mine told me that this was never a "real issue" for him or the mids that he knows. "Just a bump in the road Dad."

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<p>Ditto for my Mid, the food issue was not high on his list of "issues" and didn't even mention until I asked him about whether he was getting enough to eat, when he mentioned he dropped 4 pounds the first week when his weight was relatively stable all summer. He went shopping, we sent him care packages and as he say's "we adapt and overcome". </p>

<p>Forums like these, benefit and suffer from the lack of visual interaction between those that post; the same phrase, comment or observation, absent the visual clues of body language, or facial expression can be sooooooooo easily misinterpreted and taken the wrong way. If there is any question in your mind about the nature of a post I hope all of us will try and temper their responses at least until you have some sense of what the true intent was. </p>

<p>My posting of the food groups was an attempt at humor after cracking up over the
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Salad doesn’t have vegetables?

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post. I did not put that information up with the intent or expectation we would dissect and apply it to the new healthy food program...I just wanted to know where to put the chicken on the list……?</p>

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I have noticed that there are less questions from prospective candidates. I hope that us parents are not responsible for running them off with our petty and inane threads. This forum is for them, not us. Maybe some of us should start a Naval Academy Parents forum separate from the Service Academies group. Just a thought

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<p>I’ve felt the same way many times, perhaps a Navy parents sub group under the parent’s section. I’ve also seen prospective candidates’ post here and receive a response in a matter of minutes, or at the worst, hours. Most are thoughtful and helpful. Yes it must be a pain to wade through some of the stuff that flies back and forth and the site would likely be better without that, such is life.</p>

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<p>Just to clarify what the actual food pyramid is (this is a pdf from mypyramid.gov):</p>

<p><a href="http://www.mypyramid.gov/downloads/MiniPoster.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.mypyramid.gov/downloads/MiniPoster.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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...But if we can't handle the arguments I don't see how we can handle life at the Academy....

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<p>I don't see it that way at all. Adults can and do have valid disagreements and can discuss topics of common interest.</p>

<p>To me the issue is that some posters consistently try to demean or discredit other posters who have different opinions then their own. No one wants to put up with that petty bickering and sniping, it simply makes the poster look foolish and immature.</p>

<p>Then, others who do want to make a contribution just give up and avoid this site. Not sure how that helps any perspective mid or their parents be more informed about the Naval Academy. ......By the way, isn't that whole point of these forums????</p>

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<p>I was just trying to be respectful without blaming the parents 100%. </p>

<p>But then again, I guess I was trying to keep that post toned down for fear of being flamed.</p>

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<p>how i am hating to post this.</p>

<p>Dinner menu tonight:</p>

<p>egg rolls
rice
broccoli.</p>

<p>protein????????????? :(</p>

<p>this just never ends does it.</p>

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<p>I talked to the boy and he says that although there is a lot of chicken/turkey added to the mix, they still get beef, red meat (although the beef & broccoli was too salty= NASTY!!). He is getting enough (although he's a constant empty hole with his rump sticking out of the fridge or cupboard when he was home).</p>