<p>What level of SAT/ACT scores are required for serious consideration by the Ivies, Patriot or UAA schools for football athletes? I'm aware of the AI process, but am looking for rules of thumb based on your experiences. </p>
<p>Similarly, if a student had the grades and scores for the Ivies, does that enhance football scholarship opportunities at the Northeast Conference schools?</p>
<p>Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.</p>
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<p>The Ivy and Patriot both go by AI. There is no standard ACT/SAT score as they are components of the AI so I suggest you use the link to calculate yours. An AI of 170 or so for the Ivies and 165 for the Patriot League would give you a good chance at admission. Schools like Carniege and Washington U are D-III, so they give less leeway in athletic admissions. </p>
<p>If also highly depends on how good you are. The Ivy and Partiot also have AI banding which means they can take only so many kids in the lower AI range. Therefore if you fall in the low AI range you will need to be one of their top recruits to get admitted. If you have a high AI, you can be admitted even if you are lower on their recruit wish list. Its really a component of both AI and athletic ability, you will need healthy doses of both.</p>
<p>I played at a PL school and got recruited by the Ivies and service academies as well. My AI was more PL level than Ivy level so I landed where I did. Let me know if I can answer and questions impartially, but I cannot sway you in anyway as that in an NCAA recruiting violation.</p>
<p>The NEC has no AI so it really doesnt matter. The coaches may look favorably toward youy however because of your classroom performance, but its really all about what you do on the filed.</p>
<p>So, my son scored a 28 on the ACT as a sophomore after self-prepping for the test. I’m not sure of his class rank, but he should end his sophomore year with a 4.05 (straight A with one AP course) at a large suburban HS. Assuming that puts him in the top 5% of his class, he’s have an AI in the 190s per the site below.</p>
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<p>Football-wise, he may end up having Ivy-level talent as a QB, but DIII height. His size may push him into a DB role in college.</p>
<p>I’m checking as input into deciding whether to stretch the budget and have him attend an Ivy camp this summer or go to a few DIII camps closer to home.</p>
<p>So, my son scored a 28 on the ACT as a sophomore after self-prepping for the test. I’m not sure of his class rank, but he should end his sophomore year with a 4.05 (straight A with one AP course) at a large suburban HS. Assuming that puts him in the top 5% of his class, he’s have an AI in the 190s per the site below.</p>
<p><a href=“http://home.comcast.net/~charles517/ivyai.html[/url]”>http://home.comcast.net/~charles517/ivyai.html</a></p>
<p>Football-wise, he may end up having Ivy-level talent as a QB, but DIII height. His size may push him into a DB role in college.</p>
<p>I’m checking as input into deciding whether to stretch the budget and have him attend an Ivy camp this summer or go to a few DIII camps closer to home.</p>
<p>Check with your sons coach. They are usually pretty good with giving you an honest assesment of what level your son can play at.</p>
<p>A 190 AI is very, very good. As I stated Ivy schools can only take a few kids with lower AI’s so the kids with the lower scores are usually cant miss prospects. They can take an unlimited number of high AI kids (like your son), so are willing to take some borderline athletes with high AI. Your son seems to have the High AI renage for Ivy Schools so he should be in good shape. Also college coaches love QB’s and many high school QB’s play other positions on college.</p>
<p>Your son if defintily qualified academic wise for the Ivies, you just need to figure out if he can play ball at that level.</p>
<p>Leopard:</p>
<p>Does the PL calculate the AI the same as Ivys? </p>
<p>Would you say the difference between the two leagues re: required AI tends to be about 5 points? i.e If the soccer coach at an Ivy says you need a least a 195, what would a PL soccer coach say? A 190?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance</p>
<p>The PL does calculate AI in the same manner as the Ivies, and this is a rather new development.</p>
<p>The 5 point difference is really an estimate. Overall the PL AI is lower than the Ivy naturally, but not by a huge amount. My guess would be about 5-10 points less on average.</p>
<p>The Ivies are need based for the most part. So scholarships as such are out. If you are truly outstanding in the sport and can make the academic cuts, they may cut you some break. There is a sliding scale for cutoffs. Some sports help carry others in terms of required cutoffs. However, the rule of thumb I heard was that at the low end you needed 600’s on the SAT sections and probably football, basketball get the biggest breaks, though it all depends.</p>
<p>Dude-- There is a sliding scale called the AI. It is explained in detail above and in other threads. There is no minimum SAT per say as the AI also is calculated using class rank.</p>
<p>AI qualification is also school specific.</p>
<p>Not to shift too off-topic, but if one’s AI was 231 (9 out of 9), would that high AI compensate for being just borderline recruitable?</p>
<p>I don’t know if it is true, but an earlier poster said yes, you are recruited as a “booster” because you help up the team gpa. However…be warned that you might not actually play.</p>
<p>Having a high AI does help raise the tem’s overall AI index and GPA, so yes it would help to have somebody that’s a 9/9. Just as another poster stated, you will most likely not play that much, but if you’er fine with that, I wish you the best of luck! :)</p>
<p>A supremely high AI will absolutely help, but you still jhave to be a capable athlete. yes coaches need high AI kids to balance out some of the lower AI’s, but you still need to be able to contribute to the team in some shape or form.</p>
<p>We’ve seen high AI recruits get cut from soccer teams once they arrive on an Ivy campus, and not have play time at football and volleyball. If you love practicing and are OK with the bench some teams will keep you, others will cut.</p>
<p>Hell, that’s okay for me as long as it gives the admissions boost of being an athletic recruit.</p>
<p>I mean, I really do enjoy my sport, but it would not be devastating at all if I never played it again.</p>
<p>You wont get an admission boost if the coach doesnt really want you. The coach has a finite amount of spots for recruited athletes, and you will not get preferred admission if you are not a recruitable athlete (no matter how high the AI)</p>