For love or money?

<p>I've been accepted to MSU and have been "a Spartan" since I can remember. I always planned on going to State. However, I applied to several other in-state colleges, and have even been promised a hefty scholarship at SVSU. While it makes all the sense in the world to go where it'll be cheaper to attend, I find myself still leaning toward MSU. Is anybody else in this position? What are you planning on doing? </p>

<p>Plus, I've heard through the grapevine that unless you're a genius and get an ADS scholarship, chances are merit scholarships aren't feasible. I was an above average student, but not THAT above average (invited to Honors, but no professorial assistanship offer). Do have any chances? (ACT 30, gpa 3.94)</p>

<p>Go to the place you love... then you'll actually have fun while studying. Remember, College is about the experience and knowledge you gain for your future career. Going into MSU honors would be a great decision that would create vast potential for your life. As for me, I'm still searching for the college I wish to attend</p>

<p>i'm in a very similar situation.</p>

<p>i want to be a vet, so ever since i can remember, everyone's been saying "oh, you're going to state, then"</p>

<p>...except there's a decent chance i'll be getting a $40,000 scholarship at western michigan. in which case, im going to western. vet school is expensive, and the less i can spend on undergrad, the better. </p>

<p>and i've also heard the same about merit scholarships at MSU being hard to come by.</p>

<p>I'd say go to SVSU. I'm willing to bet your only experience which has persuaded you to be a lifelong spartan is sports. You can still be a spartan sports fan, but go to saginaw valley with a full ride. If MSU is very strong academically in the area you're looking to go into, it may be worth reconsidering.</p>

<p>Thanks everybody for the input.
I also have money at Ferris, and may consider going there before SVSU - I prefer the campus and have a job nearby. Central Michigan gets back to me early February regarding the Centralis scholarship too - so if I don't choose MSU I have a few options. It seems like such an opportunity though. However, I would love to graduate debt free (I'm also thinking vet school, puppylover6464). And true - I root on the Spartans in all of their sports, but I also admire the school and find the campus incredible.
Good luck everybody in the upcoming stress of college-deciding!</p>

<p>horsey a couple things. Your scholarship perception is wrong. As an in-state student, if you are in need and good enough to be invited to the Honors College, you should be able to get scholarship money.</p>

<p>Also, unless your family is REALLY struggling, there's no way I'd chose SVSU over Michigan State; it would really make no sense. The value of an MSU degree over an SVSU degree is huge. Plus, your college experience would be so much richer and more diverse at MSU, both inside the classroom and out; you can't put a dollar amount on that. As j89, college is an experience; for many people the best 4 years of their lives. On all levels, while SVSU may be a nice school, it's no match for an MSU and, surely, this fact would nag at you all 4 years at SVSU if you picked it over MSU for a few dollars.</p>

<p>The value of a MSU degree over a SVSU degree isn't huge, ask anyone in the work force. Also, is the experience really worth all that money? It's not "a few dollars" as Qunicy puts it...in fact I've been offered a professorial assistantship and admission in the honors college (33 ACT, 3.854GPA) at MSU, and they don't give you much more than $3,000 per year. This is a huge difference in comparison to SVSU who will likely offer to pay the full cost of tuition and fees.</p>

<p>The college experience is what you make of it. You can only have so many friends, only go to so many parties...if you're even somewhat outgoing you'll be sure to make many friends and have many great experiences at SVSU, if you so choose. Sports? SVSU has decent sports teams (won the national championship in their football division a year or two back), and who says you can't still be a MSU fan and go to MSU games?</p>

<p>College choice is a combination of fit and affordability. I hope you'll be happy wherever you go. Also, remember that the value of a MSU degree over a SVSU degree (if any, depends on the student) probably isn't "huge" and very well may not justify spending the extra thousands of your or your parent's money.</p>

<p>kkei08 is a party of one. Indeed, the value of an MSU degree over an SVSU degree IS huge. Grand Value State U, on the other hand, is an up and coming Michigan school drawing more and more bright students and, although MSU is considerably stronger than that school, I'd be more inclined to listen. But SVSU!? No way… SVSU is a mystery to an overwhelming segment of the population, even in Michigan! As I said, horsey116, if your family is truly struggling financially, that's one thing. But even then, I'd advise a better Michigan school than SVSU. But I could hardly see how a few thousand dollars is means so much to you as to cause you to opt for such a truly inferior collegiate experience on all levels, then graduating you with a degree that has so little juice in the job market or for graduate school...</p>

<p>kkei08 may think that makes sense. But like I said, he/she's a party of one.</p>

<p>I'm a party of one? You say you're looking at pre-vet.</p>

<p>To quote warblersrule86 at <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/other-college-majors/408104-veterinary-medicine.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/other-college-majors/408104-veterinary-medicine.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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Not usually. As long as you can get the required courses out of the way, you can major in pretty much anything. Of course, the list of required courses can be extensive (e.g. NC State's). There are a few feeder programs, though, like Cornell CALS.</p>

<p>One of the most important parts of the application is animal experience. Regardless of major, you'll need several hundred hours.

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<p>Notice he says "one of the most important parts of the application is animal experience".</p>

<p>To quote qbesg at <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/other-college-majors/408104-veterinary-medicine.htmls%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/other-college-majors/408104-veterinary-medicine.htmls&lt;/a>
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for what becomes of veterinary school applicants who never get in, the joke at my daughter's school is that they become doctors (M.D.'s). :-)

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<p>Pre-vet is very similar to pre-med...you can major in anything as long as you meet the requirements, and lots of animal experience (like medical experience for pre-meds) is required. Unless you think the tri-cities area around SVSU has no opportunities for animal experience (I live here, and assure you it does), then like I said before, "The college experience is what you make of it.".</p>

<p>Following the theme of the similarity between pre-med and pre-vet, here's a thread with more support for my view.
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/pre-med-topics/202936-good-pre-med-schools.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/pre-med-topics/202936-good-pre-med-schools.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Notice in particular
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Bigredmed:[Don't] look at prestige as a deciding factor - that name recognition... But there are plenty of other factors that undergraduate institutions provide that vary from school to school... These are probably hard to quantify in a really meaningful way. And the schools that really do well in these categories may or may not line up with the prestige rankings...

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<p>I'm assuming that by saying "the value of an MSU degree over an SVSU degree IS huge" you are referring, in the end, to an increased salary for MSU undergrads over SVSU grads. I can tell you this is really not the case, especially if the original poster intends on attending professional school for veterinary medicine. Even at Dow Corning where I co-op, a decent number of employees have B.S. degrees from MSU, SVSU, Purdue, UM, and I know they don't make different salaries because of their undergraduate institution. Even in engineering, a career field most start with only a bachelor's degree, a MIT graduate will not make much more than a SVSU grad starting out, and the difference can quickly be made up. (read this thread if interested, <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/engineering-majors/434001-engineering-worst-all-best-careers-3.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/engineering-majors/434001-engineering-worst-all-best-careers-3.html&lt;/a&gt;)
In fact, my father works for delphi automotive where the chief engineer has a B.S. in mechanical engineering...from SVSU! Delphi is a very large company.</p>

<p>Just remember, college gets you your first job or into graduate/professional school. After that, what you do -at- your job is what gets you advancements. There ARE jobs in which prestige matters, i-banking law etc...but in the original poster's case, choose the college which is the best fit for you.</p>

<p>Also, assuming you'd get full tuition paid for at SVSU (sounds like you've got a very good shot), MSU would cost you $9877 per year. Over four years, that's $39,508...hardly "a few thousand dollars". Note that's without -any need-based aid at either institution.</p>

<p>Oh my, I did not even know there was a Saginaw Valley State and I lived in Michigan for 20 years. Grand Valley, yes, Saginaw Valley, had never heard of. The directionals Northern, Eastern, Central, Western, etc. yes I'd heard of. You learn something every day. If the OP goes on to grad school as some have said the difference between SVSU and State will be less.</p>

<p>Yeah, it bothers me a little that I didn't even know about SVSU til early this year. I'm not one to put rankings high on the priority list, either. However, I have nothing against SVSU, and its probable that if they offer a larger aid package I'll attend there. I guess I could always go to MSU for prof/grad school, right? :)</p>

<p>And of course, I can't really decide where I'm going til I know all of my options. I have yet to file the FAFSA, and I'm waiting on some scholarship competitions right now. I'm guessing that by the beginning of March I'll have decided. When should you know exactly where you're going?</p>

<p>Thanks for the wonderful input.</p>