For Prospectives: Sophomore Available for questions

<p>Hi Potenial '11’s.</p>

<p>I’m here mostly because I’m bored before Thanksgiving break, but also because I’d like to answer your questions about the school before you apply this winter. I’m a sophomore, so I have what I consider to be a pretty ‘real’ opinion of Amherst by now, and have versed myself in most of the campus. I’m a double major in Economics and Music, and have also taken classes in the LJST, math, and history departments. I have taken Korean language at Smith, so I know a fair deal about the 5 college program, and how that works logistically. I’m a member of the Amherst College Zumbyes (all-male), a group that many consider to be the premier a cappella group on campus. I’ve lived in 3 different dorms so far, in very different settings (freshman trailer housing, upperclass quiet dorm, and Arts theme house). I’m an asian-american male from Westchester, New York.</p>

<p>So, if any of this intrigues you, and you want to know something pertaining to anything mentioned above, feel free to leave a question and I’ll do my best to answer it in a timely manner. If you want to know something I’m not particularly familiar with, leave it anyway, I’ll do my best to answer it or ask some friends who have more knowledge in the area.</p>

<p>hey any experience with poli sci?
also, how competitively intense are the people- basically i don't want to go to a school where people start discussing med/biz/law school acceptances of seniors frosh year and only care about getting ahead, not learning for the sake of learning. that's the way it is with a lot of people i go to school with now, and their anxiety just feeds my own and makes me think that way as well.<br>
also, how "elitist' would you say the school is- intellectually, socially, economically? someone said don't go to princeton because all they care about is status and everyone's very smart and has some personal merit or connection that brought them to the school and all are vying for status.
sorry if i'm framing my ?s so negatively, but these factors are making me consider applying and attending "lesser" schools (even were I to get into one of my reaches) if they have a better fit in terms of the people's attitudes and motivations.</p>

<p>Not much experience in polisci, but they do have some really interesting course titles in the poli sci department that I definitely always consider when pre-registration for each semester comes around. go to the following link to see our course offerings: <a href="https://catalog.amherst.edu/amherst/frmstudentsdefaults.aspx%5B/url%5D"&gt;https://catalog.amherst.edu/amherst/frmstudentsdefaults.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>The people here not that kind of competitive at all. Yes, people are concerned with doing well, because they're all conscious students and know what it's like to do well, considering they're in an elite school. However, there are study groups, people doing homework together, helping each other on problems they don't understand, etc. I've never run into a situation where I felt like I was competing against a fellow student for a grade. I know this is the sentiment I got from ivy league schools when I applied, and I can confidently say that is NOT an issue here.</p>

<p>The school is a kind of strange mix of elitiist and non-elitist. I guess this has to do with the new diversity policies implemented to allow more working class, low income students in, while still giving special attention to legacies and such. Connection matters much less here than other places. I'm not exactly working class, but I had absolutely no connection the Amherst before applying. People are not that concerned with status here. They're concerned with learning, enjoying themselves and being content with their place life. Not everyonne tries to get into med/law/grad school after graduation. Of the 6 seniors I knew the best last year, 1 is nore working 5 jobs in DC and pursuing a career in dance, 2 are roughing it in Spain, 1 is in grad school at Yale, 1 is trying to be a rockstar in Cali, and 1 went back home to China to work. So, the people here are diverse and all have different goals and aims for their college experience.</p>

<p>I think your concerns are well based and justified for some elite schools. My opinion is that you won't find that kind of elitist, me-first attitude here at Amherst, at least not in my experience.</p>

<p>What can you tell me about Amherst's dance program? Is it all through the Five College Consortium, or does Amherst have classes of its own? Is it all modern-based, or can dancers concentrate in jazz? </p>

<p>Thanks for any info (since you said your friend's a dancer, I figured you might know!)</p>

<p>My friend Nick took a lot of dance programs/classes at Mt. Holyoke and Smith. However, there is a separate Theatre/Dance major here at Amherst, and you can take a variety of dance related course here (see above for the online course guide). Extracurricular dance includes DASAC (Dancing and Stepping at Amherst College) and Amherst Dance, which has a large variety of genres of dance. I'm pretty sure you can concentrate on what you feel like as far as dance goes, at the very elast within the 5 college system. Nick ended up doing a dance thesis project which turned out really well, leading to believe there was enough faculty support and interested dancers willing to work with him to generate a solid dance program here.</p>

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also, how "elitist' would you say the school is- intellectually, socially, economically? someone said don't go to princeton because all they care about is status and everyone's very smart and has some personal merit or connection that brought them to the school and all are vying for status.

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This is obviously a subjective impression, but in my experience, elitism and snobbery are a larger issue at Ivy League schools than at top liberal arts colleges. I think there are two reasons for this.</p>

<p>First, the top LACs have much lower public profiles than the Ivies. If your goal in college selection is to impress the largest possible audience, then a LAC like Amherst, Williams, or Swarthmore is not the best choice. Since top LACs are comparable in selectivity to the Ivies, most of the students at AWS could have attended a "big-name" school, but they chose not to. This suggests that AWS students have other priorities.</p>

<p>Second, LACs generally have more paternalistic administrators and faculty, who value a sense of community. LACs tend to ban or discourage selective student social organizations -- like fraternities, sororities, eating clubs, finals clubs, secret societies, etc. -- although these flourish in the more "hands-off" social environments of Ivies. The opportunities for competitive social climbing (e.g. getting into the right eating club at Princeton) are much greater at Ivies than at LACs; at LACs, any interested student is generally welcome to join any student organization.</p>

<p>Thanks for doing this! My question is pretty much unanswerable and completely subjective, so it's sort of pointless to ask. But I'm going to anyway. Are people happy/proud/grateful to be at Amherst? It seems like a really great place, but I would be afraid that some people would take it for granted. </p>

<p>Sorry for not having a real question, but I appreciate your time!</p>

<p>My D said during her freshman year that she wanted to represent Amherst at College Fairs to tell HS kids about how wonderful it is. So I guess at least one is happy and proud.</p>

<p>How are the teachers and quality in those 3 departments you've taken classes in? I intend on majoring in Law or Economics or Math when I go to college so any info would be helpful. Also, can you talk a bit about what u perceive as the benefits/detractions of the Five College System? Thanks</p>

<p>hey as a girl i was wondering what the guy's perspective is on taking classes at Smith or Mt holyoke (the all girls schools im looking at too) what is the social mingaling like between the girls schools and amherst?</p>

<p>rhcp07: Sadly, there are people here who take this place for granted. There's a small faction of sentiment that absolutely hates it here, and I can't for the life of me tell you why. Go figure. It exists but is miniscule.</p>

<p>wen2hu:
The economics department is great. I've run into a few hard graders but everyone is brilliant and innovative as a whole. Professor Barbezat, the dept. head is a fantastic teacher. There are, unofficially anyway, different levels of 'majoring' in Econ, as there are both regular and "advanced" (math intensive) Micro and Macro classes. So the Econ major is as challenging as you make it. I highly recommend the Econ dept, it's wonderful.</p>

<p>The LJST dept has its ups and downs. Professor Sarat is a great guy... if you're on his good side. He's very demanding, and the major's prereq's are NOT easy classes by any means. I don't know much about the actual major.</p>

<p>The Math dept has some really good professors, the two I'm most familiar are Starr and Leise. I had Leise for multivariable calc. She's one of those people that think math is actually fun, which makes it very challenging but as engaging as crunching numbers can possibly be.</p>

<p>I'd highly recommend going to Amherst website, looking at the departments' homepages and seeing their major requirements, faculty credentials, etc if you're already seriosly considering though majors. Then again, I came into Amherst planning to double Econ/LJST but instead chose Econ/Music, so anything can happen, keep your mind open.</p>

<p>As far as the 5 college thing goes: It is as present or absent as you make it. My freshman year I didn't use the 5 college system at all. This year I'm taking a class at Smith and it's really advantageous. There are certain classes such as the korean I'm taking that are only available at one of the colleges, which makes it really handy. If you're an elitist, this also means other students can take your classes at their leisure as well. I don't see it as much of a problem, but maybe it is for you -shruggs-. I don't see many downfalls to the 5 college setup. It gives you more classes, more libraries, more parties, more college-aged people in the area, etc. Two thumbs up.</p>

<p>CAC119: Taking a class at Smith was kind of awkward at first. Maybe it was paranoia, but I felt like I was getting the "get off my campus you MAN you" stare from a lot of Smithies. But the girls in my class are fine, hospitable, whatever. I've actually made a few cool friends, so it worked out.</p>

<p>Social life is... an interesting subject. I'll try and give you the most brutally honest answer I can. There are a lot of Smith and Mt. Holyoke girls on the Amherst campus on weekends. As a whole, they are regarded as 'desperate', 'male-hungry' women looking to score and spend the night. Sucks, I know, but that's stereotyping for you. There's the semi-known saying that goes around "Smith girls you marry, Holyoke girls you hook up with, Amherst girls you talk to"... whatever that means to you. Basically... the women from the all-female schools tend to be a little objectified in our neck of the woods, but that kind of reverses poetically when guys are at MHC or Smith.</p>

<p>Hope I helped.</p>

<p>I can't speak to the math or economics departments, although people seem to like both. The faculty and courses in the LJST department seem to be very highly regarded. Professor Sarat in the department definitely stands out as a professor one should take a class with during one's time at Amherst, due to his distinctive, charisma lecturing style (turning a large lecture class into a discussion). I am taking a class this semester with Lawrence Douglas in the LJSt department, and he's been great so far. The LJST major is supposed to be fairly rigorous, requiring 11 courses and a thesis. Blazianazn is definitely right about the perception of Holyoke and Smith girls at Amherst, although that is probably not entirely fair.</p>

<p>Yea, the perception of the Smith and MHC girls isn't fair at all, but it's absolutely true.</p>

<p>I heard that Amherst requires a higher Sat Verbal Score than other colleges like Williams, or Swarthmore, is that true?? I mean everyone has been telling me that the quality of English required in Amherst is far greater than other LACs.</p>

<p>They don't "require" a certain SAT score, though ours may be a negligent amount higher. My perception, and this could be wrong, is that Amherst's strengths are largely in the humanities, though of course all the programs are excellent. Williams is terrific for mathematics, but you'll get a roughly equivalent education at any of these schools and should rather base your choice on "fit".</p>

<p>How many international students are there at Amherst?
Also, what is Amherst like as a town? How small is it? (I haven't visited yet). Is there quite a lot to do?</p>

<p>More specific, but just wondering - hat is accomodation like for sophmores upwards? Do you share rooms in residential buildings and if so are there singles as well? Or do people tend to 'live out' in apartments etc?</p>

<p>Thanks for all of your help!
I'm trying to transfer in from the UK and Amherst is currently my top choice - the English department looks really good (is this accurate in your experience? might as well throw that question in!).</p>

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I'll try and give you the most brutally honest answer I can. There are a lot of Smith and Mt. Holyoke girls on the Amherst campus on weekends. As a whole, they are regarded as 'desperate', 'male-hungry' women looking to score and spend the night. Sucks, I know, but that's stereotyping for you.

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Look at the numbers.</p>

<p>There are ~ 2,600 female undergraduates at Smith.
There are ~ 2,100 female undergraduates at MHC.
There are ~ 800 female undergraduates at Amherst.</p>

<p>That makes ~ 5,500 female undergraduates at selective LACs in the 5-College system.</p>

<p>There are ~ 800 male undergraduates at Amherst. Do the math for yourself.</p>

<p>blazianazn thanks for the honesty .. its good to know ... food for though i guess</p>

<p>I LOVE the town of Amherst. It's lovely. It's very quaint beautiful New Englandy. There are tons of terrific restaurants, cafes, coffee shops, crafts stores, a few little boutiques, fantastic ethnic food. It's a wonderful town. </p>

<p>Northampton is funkier, gets more shows, also has a terrific dining scene, and is very artsy. </p>

<p>Both towns are really progressive and feel fairly metropolitan (though the majority of Western Mass - and the areas surrounding both towns - are much more rural)</p>

<p>These pictures mainly show the profound natural beauty of the Amherst area, but both Amherst and Noho are great cultural centers, too. It isn't as rural as the pictures would suggest. ;) Sorry I'm going waaaay overboard, I just love Massachusetts so much. :) </p>

<p>Amherst and the surrounding area:
<a href="http://weinman.cc/pictures/umass/fall2003/DCP_1102_Sm.jpg%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://weinman.cc/pictures/umass/fall2003/DCP_1102_Sm.jpg&lt;/a> Puffer's Pond in Amherst
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<a href="http://homepages.uni-tuebingen.de/tobias.clauss/travels/amherst97/moh1.jpg%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://homepages.uni-tuebingen.de/tobias.clauss/travels/amherst97/moh1.jpg&lt;/a>
<a href="http://homepages.uni-tuebingen.de/tobias.clauss/travels/amherst97/quab1.jpg%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://homepages.uni-tuebingen.de/tobias.clauss/travels/amherst97/quab1.jpg&lt;/a>
<a href="http://homepages.uni-tuebingen.de/tobias.clauss/travels/amherst97/amh1.jpg%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://homepages.uni-tuebingen.de/tobias.clauss/travels/amherst97/amh1.jpg&lt;/a> (UMass in background)
<a href="http://www.dur.ac.uk/s.j.white/amherst/amherst_market.jpg%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.dur.ac.uk/s.j.white/amherst/amherst_market.jpg&lt;/a> Amherst Farmer's Market
<a href="http://www.amherstma.gov/images/photo_gallery/Teady_Bear_Rally1.jpg%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.amherstma.gov/images/photo_gallery/Teady_Bear_Rally1.jpg&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.amherstma.gov/images/photo_gallery/Farmers_Market_Shopper.jpg%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.amherstma.gov/images/photo_gallery/Farmers_Market_Shopper.jpg&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.dur.ac.uk/s.j.white/amherst/7am_church.JPG%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.dur.ac.uk/s.j.white/amherst/7am_church.JPG&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.dur.ac.uk/s.j.white/amherst/7am_common.JPG%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.dur.ac.uk/s.j.white/amherst/7am_common.JPG&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.dur.ac.uk/s.j.white/amherst/7raos.JPG%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.dur.ac.uk/s.j.white/amherst/7raos.JPG&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.dur.ac.uk/s.j.white/amherst/s_earthfoods.JPG%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.dur.ac.uk/s.j.white/amherst/s_earthfoods.JPG&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.alfredosphoto.com/image/gallery/Amherst/02.jpg%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.alfredosphoto.com/image/gallery/Amherst/02.jpg&lt;/a> Bar night, not usually this crazy at all ;)
<a href="http://www.alfredosphoto.com/image/gallery/Amherst/04.jpg%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.alfredosphoto.com/image/gallery/Amherst/04.jpg&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.alfredosphoto.com/image/gallery/Amherst/03.jpg%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.alfredosphoto.com/image/gallery/Amherst/03.jpg&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.alfredosphoto.com/image/gallery/Amherst/08.jpg%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.alfredosphoto.com/image/gallery/Amherst/08.jpg&lt;/a> Heaven on earth
<a href="http://www.alfredosphoto.com/image/gallery/Amherst/06.jpg%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.alfredosphoto.com/image/gallery/Amherst/06.jpg&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.alfredosphoto.com/image/gallery/Amherst/09.jpg%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.alfredosphoto.com/image/gallery/Amherst/09.jpg&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.alfredosphoto.com/image/gallery/Amherst/11.jpg%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.alfredosphoto.com/image/gallery/Amherst/11.jpg&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.alfredosphoto.com/image/gallery/Amherst/12.jpg%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.alfredosphoto.com/image/gallery/Amherst/12.jpg&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.nationaltrust.org/dozen_distinctive_destinations/db_images/2001_northampton_mainst.jpg%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.nationaltrust.org/dozen_distinctive_destinations/db_images/2001_northampton_mainst.jpg&lt;/a> Northampton
<a href="http://www.explorenorthampton.com/visitor/media/images/academy_jpg.jpg%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.explorenorthampton.com/visitor/media/images/academy_jpg.jpg&lt;/a> </p>

<p><a href="http://www.norwottuckinn.com/images/amherst.jpg%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.norwottuckinn.com/images/amherst.jpg&lt;/a>
<a href="http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/5/5b/250px-New_England_Peace_Pagoda.jpg%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/5/5b/250px-New_England_Peace_Pagoda.jpg&lt;/a> (Peace Pagoda in Leverett, neighboring town. It was the first of its kind in the Western hemisphere, I believe)
<a href="http://www.altrue.net/altruesite/files/pilgrimage/pagoda.jpg%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.altrue.net/altruesite/files/pilgrimage/pagoda.jpg&lt;/a>
<a href="http://weinman.cc/pictures/umass/fall2003/DCP_1100_Sm.jpg%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://weinman.cc/pictures/umass/fall2003/DCP_1100_Sm.jpg&lt;/a>
<a href="http://weinman.cc/pictures/umass/fall2003/DCP_1075_Sm.jpg%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://weinman.cc/pictures/umass/fall2003/DCP_1075_Sm.jpg&lt;/a> Older rural New England town a bit north of Amherst
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<a href="http://weinman.cc/pictures/umass/fall2003/DCP_1080_Sm.jpg%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://weinman.cc/pictures/umass/fall2003/DCP_1080_Sm.jpg&lt;/a>
<a href="http://weinman.cc/pictures/umass/fall2003/DCP_1094_Sm.jpg%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://weinman.cc/pictures/umass/fall2003/DCP_1094_Sm.jpg&lt;/a>
<a href="http://weinman.cc/pictures/umass/fall2003/DCP_1096_Sm.jpg%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://weinman.cc/pictures/umass/fall2003/DCP_1096_Sm.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Hope that all gives you a little feel for Amherst. :)</p>

<p>I visited this summer and saw the amazing new freshman dorms. How is housing the other three years?</p>

<p>BTW, thanks for doing this. It is a great help.</p>