<p>Yale received more early applications than Harvard this year. Given the number of total applications, Yale is likely to again have a lower acceptance rate than Harvard.</p>
<p>Really... I kinda always thought "Yale" was a joke academically and you only went there to party! </p>
<p>Who'da thunk it?</p>
<p>Not quite, posterX.
Acceptance rate is NOT the only measure of selectivity.
Harvard's SAT scores are a nudge higher than Yale's.
I think it's pretty clear it's a wash in the end... there are plenty of people
accepted at one, but rejected at the other.</p>
<p>Since cross-admits tend to go to harvard, yale must accept more of the "lower applicants" in order to fill a class, so I think most would consider Harvard slightly more selective.</p>
<p>Just means that both schools continue to shil for more applicants they have no intention of seriously considering.</p>
<p>The Atlantic Monthly rankings for selectivity are far better than US News's. While the US NEWS selectivity rankings are basically # admitted / # applied, Atlantic Monthly actually looks at the pool of applicants and their quality as well. </p>
<p>Harvard comes lower in these rankings because a lot of people who apply to Harvard do so...because it's Harvard. Thus, of the high number that apply, a lot may not be qualified and the competition between the qualified might be easier.</p>
<p>I don't remember what the AM rankings were, but I do remember that in the top 4 were MIT, Yale, Caltech, and Princeton (Not sure, but I think in that order). Harvard might have been fifth.</p>
<p>The rankings in 2003 were:
1. MIT
2. Princeton
3. Caltech
4. Yale
5. Harvard
6. Stanford</p>
<p>I'm fairly certain that Yale moved up, though.</p>
<p>Encarta also has TPR rankings:
1. MIT
2. Yale
3. Princeton
4. Harvard
5. Olin</p>
<p>Yes, I'd say that both MIT and Yale are more selective than Harvard.</p>
<p>Seriously guys. Cross-admits. Enough said.</p>
<p>Cross admit numbers are irrelevant in this case, because the yield rates are too close to be statistically significant in their difference. You can't directly compare cross-admit #s as you would like to, because the schools admit a different fraction of their freshman classes through early admissions, and therefore different applicant consituencies overlap (people who apply to Yale as their first choice, get rejected and end up going to Harvard and vice versa - these factors are among what throw your comparisons off).</p>
<p>They ARE relevant where there is a clear disparity, as with Harvard and Yale Law Schools. 85% of people admitted to Yale Law choose to attend, whereas only 60% of people admitted to Harvard Law end up choosing to go there.</p>
<p>With yield of 90% of applicants being accepted to both Yale and Harvard choosing Harvard, I think that is a pretty big gap to show how much more powerful the Harvard name is.</p>
<p>PS: I'm talking u-grad.</p>
<p>actually its 84.3. :)</p>
<p>whoa I would choose Yale in a heartbeat over Harvard.</p>
<p>filmxoxo17 - where's that number from?</p>
<p>Hehe I'd choose Yale too. And like 10 other schools. The only thing attracting me to Harvard is its name, which isn't saying much when I'm also looking at schools like Princeton, MIT, and Stanford because they actually offer programs I'm interested in.</p>
<p>Byerly gave that statistic.</p>
<p>i just want to know...why does this matter?</p>
<p>The op thought it did?</p>
<p>Those numbers quoted by Byerly are completely inaccurate. "Byerly" has been posting the same numbers for years, but is just a shrill for the Harvard admissions recruiters. Perhaps he didn't notice that over the past few years especially, Yale has become more selective than Harvard.</p>
<p>I find it pretty hard to believe that 84.3% of students who get into both Harvard and Yale choose the former.</p>
<p>The only possible explanation I can think of is that many people only apply to one or only get into one, meaning the pool of students that got into both is too small to be considered worthy of analysis.</p>
<p>But that's not the case, so I don't believe the statistic.</p>
<p>well, Sarah Hughes, got into 4 schools, my cousin went to her high school,and they publish what stats each person had, admits/rejects</p>
<p>put it this way, she turned down a few places for Yale, "shocks"</p>