For those that study philosophy...

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But not only can you not know that for sure, you also can't know that analytic philosophy is the epitome of logical.

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<p>My response:</p>

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analytic philosophy arose from logical positivism.

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<p>I do not have time to read through your garbage posts. I gave you a link to Brian Leiter's site. Professor Leiter himself is a Nietzschian scholar, so that should eliminate any supposed "bias."</p>

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"I'm better than you" fight. I was searching to inform myself about analytic philosophy -- I did not want to say that one was better than the other as I did not know! Obviously, your intention was to point out that yours is bigger than mine. Good job, I applaud you.</p>

<p>Do you really think it was necessary to put me through all this just because I wanted to gain a bit of knowledge?

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<p>That bit of knowledge was provided on page two. Perhaps you missed it in your hissy-fit, so here is the link again:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.philosophicalgourmet.com/analytic.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.philosophicalgourmet.com/analytic.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>"Nope, you would first take a course called... "Introduction to Logic""</p>

<p>Eh, fun but overrated. Really.</p>

<p>"I do not have time to read through your garbage posts."</p>

<p>Yes, nspeds can be pedantic at times, but that's part of his charm -- I guess. It's an acquired taste. For the most part, he makes valuable contributions to the forum. (Although every two months or so he seems to fall into an argument with any given member here.)</p>

<p>"One cannot "hold" logic."</p>

<p>Just out of curiosity, nspeds, do you speak any language other than English?</p>

<p>"For those that study philosophy..."</p>

<p>For those who study philosophy... </p>

<p>Lastly, friends, as a current justice of the 9th circuit court of appeals famously concluded his opinion "the parties are advised to chill." Mattel, Inc. v. MCA Records, Inc. (2002)</p>

<p>I concur. </p>

<p>If you want the philosophy discussion, can't you mosey over to a "college major" thread?</p>

<p>WF - you're as bad as my friends. :p</p>

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Eh, fun but overrated. Really.

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<p>Logic is my life. Guess I would make for a boring date.</p>

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Just out of curiosity, nspeds, do you speak any language other than English?

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<p>French, German, and a little Punjabi.</p>

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For those who study philosophy...

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<p>Well, that is a disputed grammatical rule according to the Oxford American Dictionary.</p>

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Logic is my life. Guess I would make for a boring date.

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Well, meander over to the biology side of academia - if your logic affinity is a genetic predeliction, don't expect to see it too often in future generations. Adapt a bit. ;)</p>

<p>(On a side note, please don't be one of those people who feels the need to be angst-ridden in order to achieve intellectual satisfaction. I was once stuck talking to someone - philosophy Ph.D., go figure - whose ambition was to write the great American novel, but felt that human interaction and emotional fulfillment would deprive him of the depression necessary for genius. After an hour of discussion about the value of the soul and the psyche, he still thought that cutting himself off from human contact was the way to immortality - the "feed the mind, starve the soul" mentality. Thankfully, I was rescued from the therapy session.)</p>

<p>Can y'all have a Death Match? The possibility of severe mutilation always makes these discussions more entertaining for passer-by. Or debate something interesting.</p>

<p>Hold on aries, I am just very bored;)</p>

<p>Can't you study anthropology or something? Or take a first-aid course (sure to be helpful amidst the death match)?</p>

<p>I am in favor of Aries' proposal:D...Death Match, Wohoo!</p>

<p>I am not the one who made a debate out of this. Also, my posts may not be up to par with Oh-Logical-One's, but I would hardly consider them garbage. You may dislike me for being part of a different culture, but that just may make your pathetic mentality garbage.</p>

<p>Regardless, thanks for the information.</p>

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Can't you study anthropology or something?

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<p>As I told a close friend...</p>

<p>...it is too empirical.</p>

<p>Ah, I see. I'm like some kind of dog with which to toy. Antagonizing me has not made you look big.</p>

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...it is too empirical.

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Exactly! </p>

<p>Exercise a different part of your brain - it will help you with any intellectual endeavour. The skills you learn in other areas will translate into something you can bring to the table in philosophy.</p>

<p>I don't want to hear that, after a few more years of philosophy, then law school, then a philosophy Ph.D., that you're torturing people you've known for ten minutes.</p>

<p>Heh, Jack, don't get too turned off about studying analytic philosophy. The divide really isn't that trenchant anymore, and most major figures in both traditions are conversant with the other. Not every analytic text is filled with logical operators, just as not every continental text is confusing or obscure. And as an aside, Kant is generally viewed as fair-game in both traditions, though his successors and contemporaries are viewed as exclusively continental.</p>

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I don't want to hear that, after a few more years of philosophy, then law school, then a philosophy Ph.D., that you're torturing people you've known for ten minutes.

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<p>Haha... actually...</p>

<p>I am thinking of doing the Ph.D first and then the J.D. : )</p>

<p>I was thinking of double-majoring or at least minoring in physics! How does that sound?</p>

<p>By the by, nspeds, when you said French and German you didn't mean at nativel-level fluency, did you? That was my question: how many languages do you speak/read/write at native-level fluency? Sorry for not being clear.</p>

<p>...and Aries, ten minutes? After both graduate degrees and the above mentioned double-major I'd say torture begins after five!:D </p>

<p>Nobody is asking for my opinion, but I would suggest the fine arts: theatre, rhetoric, dance, music, etc...</p>

<p>Cheers all,</p>

<p>WF</p>

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By the by, nspeds, when you said French and German you didn't mean at nativel-level fluency, did you? That was my question: how many languages do you speak/read/write at native-level fluency? Sorry for not being clear.

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<p>Oh... only one.</p>

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...and Aries, ten minutes? After both graduate degrees and the above mentioned double-major I'd say torture begins after five!

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<p>My record is actually at one. Never tell anyone you memorized the first 200 digits of Pi...</p>

<p>Ten was being generous. It takes a lot to torture me... I was inebriated - synapses weren't firing very quickly... and it was a long evening to begin with.</p>

<p>The person in question, by the way, shares a common school with you. Which is why I can really picture you accosting some nice Southern girl and entrusting her with your innermost thoughts.</p>

<p>Physics is great. It is sufficiently grounded in the real world so you won't lose sight of it. :)</p>

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Physics is great. It is sufficiently grounded in the real world so you won't lose sight of it.

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<p>Woooooweee...! : )</p>

<p>To be honest, I have second thoughts about going to law school. The sole Ph.D track seems much more attractive for both me and my wallet. Oh well, we will see what happens in a year and a half (I cannot believe this, in two weeks I will be a rising senior!!!!).</p>

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Heh, Jack, don't get too turned off about studying analytic philosophy. The divide really isn't that trenchant anymore, and most major figures in both traditions are conversant with the other. Not every analytic text is filled with logical operators, just as not every continental text is confusing or obscure. And as an aside, Kant is generally viewed as fair-game in both traditions, though his successors and contemporaries are viewed as exclusively continental.

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Thanks! That is what I initially thought... I'm pretty sure you're right.</p>

<p>A PhD in philosophy won't be so attractive for your wallet on the long run... Or so I've heard. (That's what my philosophy teacher was telling me: with a Ph.D in philosophy you can only teach it.)</p>