<p>Are you a purest on J.Crew? I see that Yale has enticed J. Crew to open a new store in a (rent-subsidized?) University building, and that the Yale Daily News has seen the development as worthy of front page euphoria on more than one occasion!</p>
<p>I don't know how much time you spent hanging around Harvard Square as a Med student based in Boston, not Cambridge.... but undergrads running around during the day wearing <em>BLAZERS</em> ???? Not since the 60's I don't think.</p>
<p>If the truth be known, I suspect you were simply lashing out thoughtlessly after an innocent high schooler mentioned that she'd "heard" Princeton and Yale were "preppier" than Harvard.</p>
<p>"There is no way that harvard is less preppy than yale," barked Bulldog!</p>
<p>I have never - EVER - advised an applicant as where he or she should go. That is a personal decision that should be made after visiting. Harvard, Princeton, Stanford, Cornell, Duke, Columbia, Georgetown, Berkeley, Penn, Yale .... all are outstanding universities.</p>
<p>That said, I think most applicants should think long and hard about diverging from the path blazed by their predecessors over the years. Generations of common admits - by definition, top students all - have opted overwhelmingly for Harvard. Whether the motivation has been academics, athletics, other extra-curricular offerings, or the perceived attractions of Cambridge over New Haven, is impossible to say for sure.</p>
<p>Still, if you are a Yale legacy - as 15% of the class will be - or are otherwise emotionally attached to Yale, it is certainly not a bad second choice. I have never criticized Yale's academics.</p>
<p>I don't think Yale partisans help their cause - on this site and elsewhere - by slamming Harvard; it only emphasizes to applicants the extent to which Yale constantly measures itself against Harvard in all things - acknowledging, in a backhanded way, that Harvard is the widely-perceived standard bearer.</p>
<p>"I don't think Yale partisans help their cause - on this site and elsewhere - by slamming Harvard; it only emphasizes to applicants the extent to which Yale constantly measures itself against Harvard in all things - acknowledging, in a backhanded way, that Harvard is the widely-perceived standard bearer."</p>
<p>This is only true if you are completely harvard-centric and see the yale's attempt at rivalry as proof of inferiority. Unlike such alums as cosar and northstarmom, you don't help the harvard cause by insulting yale and princeton all the time either. Together with your rabid defense of perceived "slamming" of harvard, your behavior belies some sort of insecurity. (and spare me the insult that you don't put down yale and princeton all the time, you constantly do with underhanded statements).</p>
<p>From a comment about you on another (not to be named) board:
When you feel the need to gloat continuous about how <em>great</em> your school is, then you must feel threatened that it might not be all that great</p>
<p>If you go to Harvard you'll be doing what most people would do, it's hard to resist the #1 aura, which will attach to you forever.
If you go to Yale, you'll forever find ways to demonstrate it was the better choice. It might even get you to try to get more out of your education to "prove" you made the right choice.
In either case, anyone making their minds on this matter should feel great. And anyone not lucky enough to have this choice should realize that there is not much better about H and Y than about twenty other institutions.</p>
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<p>I agree!! This is actually one of the things turning me off from Yale -- Yalies seem obsessed with comparing themselves to Harvard.</p>
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<p>Couldn't the same be said about attending a state school over an Ivy? After all, it would give one the same incentive to try and "prove themselves"...</p>
<p>/disclaimer: I am trying to decide between the 2 schools right now - and there's no clear favorite (yet) !</p>
<p>Clever. And in line with your past practice. When the point is hard to handle, insult the person making it.</p>
<p>Yale is a fine school, that I have never "insulted"; it is not well served by those feeling the need to make it look better by bashing its perceived rivals.</p>
<p>NYCFan, I'm not a Yale partisan, but I do jump in when you get into these endless battles with Yalies. The energies expended in your obsession with Yale can best be used to provide helpful admissions info to aspiring applicants as I have said so many times before. You do have a storehouse of information but it's all useless. Use your ferreting skills to ferret out info that will help highschool seniors. Here we have an old man battling with kids all day and all night on multiple websites. All should know you are mild-mannered only on CC. They have your hands tied. You know they won't let you cut loose and that's a good thing for everyone here.</p>
<p>I am not "battling". I have nothing bad WHATSOEVER to say about the quality of a Yale education, and that will continue to be the case - here and elsewhere - no matter how much you try to attack me personally.</p>
<p>I invite anyone interested in seeing just where you are coming from - using this alias - to review your prior posts.</p>
<p>Can you guys take your argument elsewhere? You are ruining this thread. I honestly remember thinking a few days ago that this thread would be a great resource for students next year. However, this bickering is ruining it. Start a new thread.</p>
<p>Jesus futajalon... I just read your posts and it seems like 95% of them are criticizing NYCFan/Byerly. And you accuse him of "not being able to let go" ? ;) </p>
<p>At least provide us with some useful statistics like Byerly does, so that us students can benefit from your mutually sophomoric bickering...!</p>
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<p>*Byerly * - where can I find more about the cross-admit statistics you so-often cite? Thanks</p>
<p>raven, if I had the stats I gladly would. I don't post often. I lurk. I love CC. I find out a great deal from the great posters, especially those on the parents' board who sometimes migrate over to the kids' boards to help out with useful info. NYCFan could easily count himself in that number if he'd only use his considerable search skills to unearth and dispense useful info. It's the same stats over and over again, extolling Harvard. Relax and get used to the fact that I'll keep showing up when NYCFan starts the sophomoric stuff.</p>
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<p>I thought for a while that I was deciding between Harvard and Yale.</p>
<p>But I think I'm turning them both down and taking a merit scholarship at Duke. PM me if you're interested in my decision, since my reasoning isn't really germane to the thread. But I just wanted to say that you other dual-admits shouldn't be afraid to look beyond the "big two."</p>
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<p>Sorry for my vagueness. I'm talking about the __ % of Harvard-Yale cross admits who choose each school. </p>
<p>Also, I'm interested if there is a trend in the data (if you know), and if you think Harvard's percentage will drop any this year because of all the negative press (COFE survey, Summer's comments, etc.).</p>
<p>OH, and also, Yale matriculated the highest percentage of black students last year out of the Ivy League. Harvard will probably matriculate more this year. So, for all intents and purposes, they are pretty much equal. Also, 7% of Harvard College is Hispanic, while a little over 6% of Yale College is Hispanic. Again, pretty equal. Diversity wise, you cant go wrong with either.</p>