For Undocumented/DACA Students

Introduction
[1] This isn’t a “universal guide”. This is from my experiences in the college application process. That being said, there may be some bias. But honestly, I just don’t see much information about this large cohort of students online.

[2] Regardless, I hope there are some things that may have answered your questions if you’re DACA/Undocumented or have provided you with helpful information. I’ve done some research on colleges myself, so if you need help, feel free to message me.

[3] For all DACA and/or Undocumented individuals (regardless of how you got into the US), you will be considered an international with the exception of a few private universities (Brown, Pomona, and Northwestern come to mind). You’re pitted against extremely talented, probably 4.0/36 ACT/1600 SAT numbers individuals with international awards from all over the world, and remember, there are only a few spots for these individuals.

[4] Money is very important. This guide is mostly for lower-income students.

Being Cautious
[2] “At University X, we practice need-blind applications for all students (or for DACA/Undocumented students)”. This does not translate to you being considered a domestic as some may believe it does. It merely means that the amount of money you need will not (or won’t it?) be a factor in determining your decision.

[3] Being too poor is negative. I had an EFC of 0 (my family income was 0).As a non-US Citizen or Permanent Resident, you are not eligible for FAFSA. This means the less money you have, the more money the university will have to match through private funding/grants. This means for any college that isn’t need-blind, your lack of money will make you less favorable. This is due to the fact that there is limited funding (especially with the current administration) for international students. Just 5-10 years ago, the international scene was pretty big for many private universities.

Do Your Research
[1] When a school says they are “need-blind”, make sure that they are need-blind for all applicants and not just for domestic students. Examples from my experiences include UChicago and Case Western.

[2] Do not think that your DACA or Undocumented status is a “hook” (a trait or characteristic of an application that might give them an edge in admissions i.e Race, Athletic Recruitment, Legacy, Donor, and etc). It is not a hook. No matter what you see. I applied to 20 colleges and got rejected from even those my high school counselor advocated and was “certain” that I should’ve gotten into if it weren’t for my DACA and EFC 0 situation.

Message to Juniors and Rising Seniors
Like many of you probably are right now, I came in going confident. I had high marks, a rigorous curriculum, “excellent” EC (Medical publication, Lab research, volunteering, tutoring, leadership positions, and state and national awards for academics and music).

However, there is one very important thing to note. Colleges are not arbiters of education equality and social mobility; they (private) are a business at its core. Although this may just be from my and other similar shoed peoples’ experiences, when colleges say “Look at how much diversity we’ve added to the class of 2023!” it feels as if they’ve adopted a few poor folks or folks from diverse backgrounds just for their colorful pamphlets.

Insights
[1] Be realistic. After reading the above section, you might get the sense that I’m being too pessimistic, but I’ll tell you this: as much as I am trying to be straight-forward and not sugar coating anything, I want you to know that applying to college can be wild and unexpected, whether for the better or for the worse. After speaking to some low-income DACA/Undocumented applicants, many have had similar outcomes, some worse, and very few better. The reality is, you probably won’t get into a T10 university or even a T20 university, even the best of us don’t; especially if you’re poor and need a full ride. If you’re financially capable, this section changes dramatically! This is just the nature of the US Higher Education System - it doesn’t seem as meritocratic as it should be.

[2] Ask your high school counselor for a fee waiver and how much your school can help with transcripts and test scores. I was fortunate enough to have my school waive most of the fees. This will help tremendously and will allow you to cast a wider net. You should NOT be applying to only 4-5 schools unless your circumstances allow it (say applying to an auto-admit or state school). You will need to apply to a LOT more. I applied to 20 (actually, 22 including my state schools). This also doesn’t mean applying to 100+ colleges to be on the news for winning a couple of million dollars in scholarship money.

Applying to College
[1] If you have a very low income (or have no income like me), apply through Questbridge. I want to bang my head on the floor for not doing this because I was deadset on the University of Chicago through ED1 so I applied through the Common App. Questbridge will give you a FULL ride to any school that you get matched with. With this, you are able to essentially have MULTIPLE Early Action submissions (even to universities that are REA or even Restrictive ED).

Disclaimer: Only rising seniors/seniors may apply through Questbridge. If you already graduated or are taking a gap year like me, sorry.

[2] Work through this with your college counselor. Depending on where you live, telling your counselor that you’re undocumented or DACAmented may be an excellent idea - it was in my case. Do this early and get to know your counselor. They may write your circumstances and adversity on your behalf to the college.

Recap and What You’re (in)Eligible For
[1] The Student Aid Report. This is essentially the file that FAFSA uses to calculate your aid. Although you are not eligible for Federal Aid (FedAid, Pell Grants, and etc), you are eligible to fill our the SAR. This may come in handy.

[2] CSS. This is important as some college require you (Citizen/PR or not) to fill this out in order to receive university aid/grants. Remember: Some colleges like UChicago, Princeton, and UPenn have their own separate financial aid forms along with the CSS.

[3] FAFSA: Unfortunately, undocumented, DACAmented, and international students are barred from applying for FAFSA, and at many state schools (with the exception of the University of California system i.e Berkley, Los Angeles, and etc) you will not be given any aid (since public state schools only provide public aid and merit scholarships which are either: 1. competitive, or 2. not enough).

[4] Fee Waivers: You are eligible for fee waivers to apply through the Common App and etc. Ask your high school counselor regarding this.

[5] Questbridge: As described above, you are eligible for this program regardless of your citizenship. However, note that you must be a first-year applicant a senior who is applying for college the coming fall (as in direct-from-high school-to-college).

[6] In-State Tuition: Some states (i.e Illinois, California, Colorado, Connecticut, New York, Florida, Kansa, Maryland, Minnesota, Nebraska, New Jersey, New Mexico, Oregon, Texas, Utah, Washington, Oklahoma, and Rhode Island) allow DACA students, Undocumented Students, or both, to receive in-state tuition. Although the requirements may vary, generally they are 1. Graduate from x state high school and must have attended it for at least two years, 2. Obtain a GED from x state,
3. Fill out this affidavit stating that you are currently trying to get legal status in the US.

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You should merge your very last point at the bottom:

with the previous point, since the previous point suggests that all state universities would consider such a student as international.

Also, the requirements vary in terms of amount of attendance or residency in the state that goes along with high school graduation or GED in the state to qualify for in-state tuition and/or financial aid.

Adding Emory, Tufts, Oberlin and Swat to schools that consider DACA/undocumented students as domestic applicants, not international

https://apply.emory.edu/apply/other/undocumented.html
https://admissions.tufts.edu/apply/first-year-students/undocumented-students/
https://www.oberlin.edu/mrc/student-resources/undocumented-daca-resources
https://www.swarthmore.edu/admissions-aid/undocumented-students

@ucbalumnus Got it. Unfortunately 15 minute edit windows has passed.

As for the later point, I mentioned that they do vary. I found that for the most part, they require certain years of residence/graduation, GED. However yeah I think it would’ve been important to recognize that state schools=international.

http://talk.qa.collegeconfidential.com/financial-aid-scholarships/2125616-state-resident-tuition-through-high-school-graduation-within-state.html is a list of states with in-state tuition and/or financial aid through high school graduation (and other conditions such as length of school attendance or living in the state). However, not all such states allow DACA or undocumented students to use such provisions, so the rules on that need to be checked specifically.

Note that the private schools that consider DACA or undocumented students for domestic financial aid may also have conditions, such as graduation from a US high school.

@HKimPOSSIBLE thank you for creating this post to help others in your situation. I’ve followed your other post and wish you the best of luck with your appplications this year.

No problem. I haven’t seen too many posts about this topic so I decided to write this.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/794428001

Relevant material . Also:

https://www.goldendoorscholars.org/partner-schools

Note that there are schools included here that are not as commonly known. Everyone wants the Emory , F&M , Duke, Tufts , Wake. How about some of those other schools?

A lot of DACA recipients, even with high stats. “get it” that a full ride Award is unlikely. Free tuition at a local CC is about as good as it gets.

Golden Door Scholars is a great program, albeit it small. But HKim should certainly apply when the app opens later this summer as he is a strong candidate. Some of the schools on the list could definitely be targets… hkim will have to sort thru the list keeping in mind his two potential paths:

1)If applying as DACA: Does the school consider him as a domestic applicant? If so, does it meet full need? He should run the NPC to see if it will be affordable. I would encourage him to not apply to any of those schools that treat DACAs as internationals, as the money would not likely be there for an international applicant with an EFC of zero. As a further complicating factor, Hkim would not be able to even afford the health insurance that many of these schools require for students, whether domestic or international.

2)If he has his PR by application time, run NPCs and apply to the schools that look to be affordable.

Hkim doesn’t live in Chicago/attend Chicago Public schools, so unfortunately can’t take advantage of the Star Scholarship Program which is the current name of the program highlighted in the USA article.

This could be a good resource for some on this thread: https://www.forbes.com/sites/viviannunez/2018/09/21/this-latinas-app-helps-undocumented-students-find-ways-to-pay-for-college/?fbclid=IwAR2KXuLGHQtGfiCW1KmeXtfHShq9B9s8ClrpDW6J14CkM3nQCK_AUnO2Vz0#e45f75e40397
@HKimPOSSIBLE , I hope things are coming together for you, for the upcoming year.

I strongly disagree with the suggestion that applying to 20 schools is helpful. Selective schools are very focused on finding applicants that are a fit with what the college is looking for. It is very difficult to do the necessary research and write quality essays that show the depth of match for 20 colleges, so this shot gun approach actually decreases the chances of admission for most students. Much better approach to zero in on a manageable number of colleges (for most students that will be 10 or fewer), truly understand what each college is seeking and value and spend the time to ensure the essays and app matches that.

@Milee30, @HKIMpossible had a very specific set of circumstances last admissions cycle the resulted in acceptances without FA. For a zero EFC student waiting on a green card (and thus being treated as an international applicant), this was a situation without a workable answer. The OP has decided to share info based on last year’s experiences. This is not the standard “creating a list” thread. http://talk.qa.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/2131364-reject-train-going-full-speed-p1.html

Since my last post, I’ve been running NPCs for my cousin’s son who has good but not great number, is a US citizen. He’s in the predicament of needing substantial merit money or has to stay home in an i favorable environment and commute. The situation is not unique in that many of our student posters find themselves there. They may have a zero EFC; they may not, but parents not going to pay even that. It’s either getting huge merit money or continue their education in dribs and drabs and working. Transportation is a challenge for many such kids. Every dime of cost is. That’s just the way it is.

OP’s academic stats are such that there is a high likelihood of getting great merit money if more colleges with less name recognition, a lot less name recognition are included. There are schools out there willing to pay for those numbers. Otherwise, the issues are the same as those facing many aspiring college students; insufficient money from parents to make it work.

In addition to my cousin, a woman I know who is a cleaning lady, is struggling with helping her DD go to community college. The commute is a long, tiresome one, which with classes leaves little time for the student to work for much needed funds. This despite NY’s free tuition for many students and proximity to a college. Where I work part of the year in an education desert, it’s the same thing; even community college is a good 45-55 minute drive and that’s if you have a car that can get you there directly. And $6 per round trip if lucky enough to make the very limited shuttle service work— and you have to get to that shuttle stop.

Without parental support, financial as well as verbal, transportation as well as home environment, it’s very difficult.

Wishing OP success in finding a school match this year. I think it’s entirely possible, even likely, if far less selective schools that have the merit money to give are included on list

Adding Wesleyan to the list of private colleges that consider DACA/Undocumented applicants for domestic financial aid:
https://www.wesleyan.edu/admission/apply/undocdaca.html

Yes, I remember the situation, that thread and the other related threads and believe that this - the shotgun approach - was a factor in the rejections. Instead of understanding what the colleges really wanted, the shotgun approach meant for example that the essays weren’t well targeted. Demonstrating of exactly what the college is looking for is even more critical for students like HK who have very few realistic options. Since there are very, very few colleges that will give DACA students a full scholarship, it would be a better use of time to do the research and fully tailor apps to appeal to those few colleges.

Instead of recommending that others repeat this mistake, let’s warn them against it.

This wasn’t a situation with zero workable answers, it was a situation with very few workable answers. And an approach that meant less-than-targeted essays and apps were submitted to the few colleges that would have given full aid with an acceptance meant a lower chance of acceptance for one of the very few colleges that would have worked here.