<p>It doesn't matter where you are reading this from. Asia, Europe, South America, etc... but, are UC Berkeley, UCLA, and USC ( University of Southern California) very well known and prestigious colleges in your countries? If one were to rate them, how would they be rated from best to least? </p>
<p>I'm trying to get a view from international students instead of students in America and especially California.</p>
<p>well USC is well known, UC BERK is well known among IT college students but not the older generation(like my dad..), UCLA is just well not known, the average person in china thinks its just a college in LA, period.</p>
<p>Oh really?? I do not find this surprising at all because when I chat with my friends who are from Hong Kong and Taiwan, they all think that USC is the better college out of the three. Can you explain why is that? Is it because of the trojan network of asian graduates expanding their connections into the Asian countries? </p>
<p>Also, I have also heard that UCLA is not as big over there as compared to here.</p>
<p>UCLA, UCB and USC togheter with Stanford would be the most famous California/West Coast schools in Europe. None of the other UC's and other uni's from that region has a big reputation in this side of the ocean.</p>
<p>in eastern europe...i'd say that UCB is definitely the most famous of the three. UCLA is somewhat known...but USC..hmm i bet no one has ever heard about that.</p>
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UCLA, UCB and USC togheter with Stanford would be the most famous California/West Coast schools in Europe. None of the other UC's and other uni's from that region has a big reputation in this side of the ocean.
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<p>Dare you represent the perception of the intellectuals there since you missed Caltech, the place where Stephen Hawking gives annual lecture in the States ? :)</p>
<p>The rating as per my knowledge would be as follows:</p>
<p>University of Berkeley
UCLA
USC
This rating is purely on the basis of overall ranking. But if you look at particular filed of study then these ratings change completely most of the times. </p>
<p>Abha
International Counselor and AP Coordinator
India</p>
<p>I'm an international living in the US, but when I was in Sweden last summer I saw a staggering number of people wearing UCLA shirts. I don't know how much they knew about the school, though; they might've just liked it because it's American and therefore coolenviableandstylish.*</p>
<p>*Don't jump; I'm allowed to make fun of my own country...</p>
<p>CalTech is a great school but it not that famous at all in Europe. MIT is far better known over here.</p>
<p>The question was about fame and not quality.</p>
<p>Here (Switzerland) many people seem to know UCB and UCLA (UCB considered more prestigious), but has never heard of any of the other ones the OP listed.</p>
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CalTech is a great school but it not that famous at all in Europe. MIT is far better known over here.</p>
<p>The question was about fame and not quality
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<p>Compared to MIT, yes, but claiming Stanford, Berkeley, UCLA, USC are the only known West Coast colleges in Europe sounds too extreme. I guess the top students in Europe are not that ignorant at all.</p>
<p>Define best students? I got into Cambridge (where Stephen Hawkin lecturers) and other top European Universities and have been looking at the higher education field for a while and have a good idea of what I'm talking about. The question was not if any person in Europe knows UCLA, UCB and USC but the general fame of these universities. These unis may not be as good as Caltech but they are more famous in this side of the ocean. Fame can be due to quality or just because they are mentioned often. I bet a lot more teens/early 20's in the UK & Ireland know about Brown University since it has been mentioned in the OC. Maybe USC is more famous due to it's strong film program which is more accesible to the general public than advanced jet propulsion theory. It is not a quality debate it's a fame one.</p>
<p>Yes, exactly. I am merely asking which school is the most "well known" and popular.</p>
<p>Berkeley is the only one out of those three that people in [Western] Europe generally know.</p>
<p>Don't say that Nietzsche. Rtkysg will be mighty angry!!! Lol</p>
<p>psmyth000,</p>
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None of the other UC's and other uni's from that region has a big reputation in this side of the ocean.
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<p>Caltech is much less famous than Stanford and Berkeley. But knowing USC and not UCSF, UCLA and not UCSD makes me believe that your statement is parochial. UCLA and USC are not exactly famous for their academics, hence if a person ever heard of USC, I would argue that it is very likely for him/her having heard of USCD or Caltech.</p>
<p>My question is, how would you know and measure the reputation of Californian colleges across Europe? Have you done a survey in each country? Asking many top students and employers in the country? Do you mean that for the intellectuals over there, UCSF has less reputation than USC? Or you just assume that USC must be more famous based on your exposure? In the States and Asia, most people haven't heard of Sorbonne, Insead, Ecole Poly, or Imperial College, but if you're refering only to these people then the fame carries little meaning.</p>
<p>Once again I will repete what the question was. He wants to know how well known the universities are in Europe in general and not how well perceived they are. I am speaking out of experience of living in many EU countries, vast travel, a business world life (family who are CEO's of international companies) strong links to the USA, a lot of research into the field as I am interested in it, a lot of conversations with carrer guidance councelors in several EU countries, personal research, talking to people on several boards, personal observations and etc... He is not asking what academics in their great European ivory towers know about the uni but their general fame in the region. Once again maybe UCSD is not that generaly known because it is not even as old as twice my age. Maybe UCSF is not as famous as it is a specialist institution with almost all graduate students. Once again fame does not always = standard. A good few people will know about Bob Jones University in Nothern Ireland because Ian Pasley has a honorary doctorate from it and always calls himself Dr. Most people in that region will not know if it's a great university or not but will be familiar with the name.</p>
<p>Here is another example I just remembered. Maybe USC is known because it was mentioned in that really boring TV program (my opinion any way) Dawson's Creek like 1000 times. Once again it does not mean quality but exposure.</p>
<p>rtkysg -- I'm not sure why this is such an explosive issue for you. The question was not about quality; it's not even about prestige. It's simply about how known Californis schools are in Europe.</p>
<p>For example, I have seen that frequently in the US, people have heard of the Sorbonne but not of Ecole Normale, which is frankly ridiculous. However, this does not mean that it would be more difficult to be hired in the US out of Ecole Normale than out of the Sorbonne. To those to who it matters, "well-known" is not more important than quality.</p>
<p>in PR they are well known and prestigious</p>